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2004-06-16 Iraq-Jordan

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Posted by eLarson 2004-06-16 11:31|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 These videos need to get out on the net as it is the only place that the public will be able to see for its self the gruesome nature of the Saddam regime.

Posted by cheaderhead 2004-06-16 12:57:15 PM|| 2004-06-16 12:57:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 (Hat tip: Powerline)

(Feature request: can you put a "hat-tip" box in the link posting form?)

Posted by eLarson 2004-06-16 1:58:05 PM|| 2004-06-16 1:58:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 The Pentagon has lots of Saddam atrocity footage â but is loathe to release it, possibly for fear it would be taken as a crude attempt to blunt criticism of Abu Ghraib.

It isn't a crude attempt--it's a valid reason to blunt that criticism. I hope the links will end up all over the web so our liberal friends can't avoid seeing it--then they can stop waving their America-is-so-horrible flag and face the stark horror of true human ugliness.

Posted by jules 187 2004-06-16 2:06:50 PM|| 2004-06-16 2:06:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 It isn't a crude attempt--it's a valid reason to blunt that criticism.

Yep, sure is. What happened at Abu Ghraib pales in comparison to the atrocities committed in Saddam's name. This needs to be driven home, and if releasing gory footage gets the point across, then do it.

"Comparing these videos to the photos of naked Iraqi prisoners, what is worse? 'Abuse' at the hands of U.S. soldiers, or torture/mayhem by Saddam's thugs?"

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-06-16 2:27:57 PM|| 2004-06-16 2:27:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 It doesn't matter.

Nothing matters. The people harping about Abu Ghraib (and I include a number of Rantburg regulars) don't give a rat's ass about the facts, because they're much more interested in how they can use the images.

Images of what Saddam's torturers did aren't useful to them, and are in fact harmful to their positions. So those images will disappear.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-06-16 2:36:51 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-06-16 2:36:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Make Teddy Kennedy watch them, so he'll have an idea what an ACTUAL atrocity looks like.

Posted by mojo 2004-06-16 2:43:42 PM|| 2004-06-16 2:43:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 She is missing the point. It is not that the press doesn't know how to deal with it. They know and are dealing with it the way they want to. They exult in showing "how bad Americans are" and find it quite convenient not to show real atrocities. There is no mystery here.

Posted by Sgt.DT 2004-06-16 2:58:28 PM|| 2004-06-16 2:58:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Abu Ghraib: Torture! Panties on Arab heads! Ugly, burka-less dykes pointing at genitals! Film at 11!

Pre-liberation, Saddam-controlled Iraq: Video taken during Saddam's glorious rule. Nothing to see here. Move along.

Posted by Chris W. 2004-06-16 3:45:26 PM|| 2004-06-16 3:45:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Ted and the media know full well what ACTUAL atrocity is. And they know full well that there is no comparison between the humiliations at Abu Ghraib and Saddam's rape rooms/mass graves/people shreadders/what-these-videos-show.

They are deliberately and with full knowledge lying in order to harm the administration and America in general.

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-06-16 4:05:22 PM|| 2004-06-16 4:05:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 AEI spokeswoman Veronique Rodman, puzzled by the minimal interest in the Saddam torture video, is sure that if it was a video of equally horrific torture committed by U.S. troops, the press would find ways to show or report it.
Truer words . . .
I recall that, shortly after the liberation, videos of Baathist torture were hot-sellers on the streets of Baghdad. Although the American public is shielded from this stuff by mommy-media, the Iraqi's know the difference between atrocity and humiliation.

Posted by Sludj 2004-06-16 4:07:27 PM|| 2004-06-16 4:07:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Sludj

Perhaps we should release the videos and say it is being comitted by U.S. Troops and then, after the media gets their panties all in a knot and the 'We Hate America' morning lie shows are fully engaged we tell them the truth....

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-06-16 4:12:33 PM|| 2004-06-16 4:12:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Make Teddy Kennedy watch them, so he'll have an idea what an ACTUAL atrocity looks like.

C'mon, Ted Kennedy's perfectly aware what a real atrocity looks like. At least, he does if being deliberately left behind, trapped in a sunken car to slowly suffocate counts as an atrocity.

It does in my book.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-06-16 6:16:08 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2004-06-16 6:16:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Reporters. I wonder, do they become traitors deliberately or simply through incompetence and stupidity? If it takes two witnesses to their treason, doesn't reading or watching their broadcasts count? Maybe it's time for a few affadavits on just what we see on TV. And let's consider they are fast reaching the point where public believes lawyers more than a journalist. Now they just have to work on squirming their way under car salesmen.

Posted by Silentbrick 2004-06-16 9:19:45 PM|| 2004-06-16 9:19:45 PM|| Front Page Top

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