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2004-06-23 International-UN-NGOs

U.S. Drops U.N. Bid for War Crime Shield

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Posted by JerseyMike 2004-06-23 1:30:32 PM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Jersey--

Yes, bad for the UN, if W had the guts to make it so. But he probably won't.

In practice it makes no difference however. Let the ICC--to which the US is not a signatory--try to enforce its subpoenas and see what happens.

Posted by BMN 2004-06-23 4:18:29 PM|| 2004-06-23 4:18:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 At first I was bummed and angered by this... but then I realized something...

If things do pan out on the bad side, ie, Soldiers being tried in the ICC as a sort of Blackmail or Revenge tactic, then the UN will be in a world of hurt.

And we might even see a bigger move AWAY from the UN.

Who knows.

Posted by Anonymous4021 2004-06-23 4:24:23 PM|| 2004-06-23 4:24:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 not to mention that the US has a open resolution to invade the Hauge if necessary to free our citizens held in the ICC

Posted by Sam B 2004-06-23 4:26:44 PM|| 2004-06-23 4:26:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Let's see if Flipper is able to hang himself on this issue.

Posted by someone 2004-06-23 4:53:47 PM|| 2004-06-23 4:53:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 The law of unintended consequences will bite the UN over this. There'll be a time when they need American help (after all, when was the last time the Euros or anyone else actually achieved anything on the international scene) - and they'll either rethink this ICC routine, or the US will just let the phone ring. They do have call-display at the White House, don't they?

Posted by Patrick 2004-06-23 5:38:58 PM|| [www.ubilibertas.com] 2004-06-23 5:38:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 ..or the US will just let the phone ring.

Don't count on it. Too many people (left and right alike) seem to think that the corrupt UN has some sort of value to add, and are willing to go back to it time and time again in futile attempts to get something noteworthy done.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-06-23 5:54:47 PM|| 2004-06-23 5:54:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Actually the ICC is based on treaty law. Since the U.S. is not a party to the treaty it isn't subject to the ICC provisions no matter what the U.N. or anyone else contends. Plus U.S. law requires the President to send armed forces to rescue any and all citizens from the ICC. Lastly the U.S. has bilateral treaties with more than 100 countries against subjecting U.S. soldiers to the ICC. The loser here is really the U.N., but we already know it's a loser anyway.

Posted by Laddy 2004-06-23 7:41:04 PM|| 2004-06-23 7:41:04 PM|| Front Page Top

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