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2004-06-23 Iraq-Jordan

Zarqawi Vows to Assassinate Iraqi Leader

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Posted by Steve White 2004-06-23 1:50:23 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 So the race is on, who kills who first. Odds?

Posted by Lucky 2004-06-23 1:58:22 AM|| 2004-06-23 1:58:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 For those of you who understand three dimensional thought (logic), the key to neutralizing Zarqawi, is to kill him in the past or the future, not in the present. We'll miss him every time!

Posted by smn 2004-06-23 2:22:18 AM|| 2004-06-23 2:22:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Have we got time travel yet? I heard about the Philadelphia experiment in WW2. It could be useful if we have.

Posted by Howard UK 2004-06-23 5:00:29 AM|| 2004-06-23 5:00:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Killing them in the present always worked for us.

Posted by Aaron 2004-06-23 11:37:56 AM|| 2004-06-23 11:37:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 ok, so we've hit two safe houses in Fallujah in the last 5 days, all preceded by what Kimmet calls "actionable intelligence"

This is with USMC withdrawn from Fallujah. So who is providing the intell, who is gathering it etc?

Is it possible that all the problems and frustrations with the Fallujah Protective Service are simpley cover for what is actually an effective means of getting info from the nest of foreign fighters in central Fallujah? (baruch hashem)

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-06-23 12:02:20 PM|| 2004-06-23 12:02:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 On the subject of multidimensional logic, I partly concur with LH that we are getting a lot of intel from the locals in Fallujah. However, the 'problems and frustrations' were definately not a cover; they are real. The non violent, just trying to get by segment of the Fallujah population is getting bullied, extorted, etc. by the insurgency. Of course this is one reason why the intel is better with locals getting grudges against the insurgents, but its too bad it comes this way.

Posted by mhw 2004-06-23 12:12:13 PM|| 2004-06-23 12:12:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 mhw, As far as the Fallujah locals go, I don't have much sympathy. You reap what you sow...

I'm for building a fully armed and manned wall around the entire city (None in or out withing a full search and vetting) and letting them have exactly what they want.

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-06-23 12:17:17 PM|| 2004-06-23 12:17:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Old Boy(tm) will be SOOO surrounded by Blackwater and I.S.A.T. gunners, anyone trying to off him will have a helluva time putting him on ice. I've done a lot of training with I.S.A.T. in Germany, and they produce some top-notch bodyguards. Zarqawi would be a fool to try anything, because the best Hired Guns, tribal intel, technology, and purchased loyalties will be on Allawi's side.

Posted by Bodyguard 2004-06-23 12:53:42 PM|| 2004-06-23 12:53:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Of course this is one reason why the intel is better with locals getting grudges against the insurgents

good point

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-06-23 1:11:43 PM|| 2004-06-23 1:11:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 It is possible that what occurred in Najaf and Karbala with Al Sadr's boys will also occur in Fallujah. Namely, as mhw points out, the locals will get sick of Zarqawi and his team of asswipes and eventually rat on them. Despite Fallujah being a Sadaam hotbed, it is possible that the regular folks there had a taste of freedom before the uprising in April. I'll bet some of them liked it...a lot. And I'll bet that they hate being bullied by Syrians, Algerians, Chechens and Saudis who act as if they own the place. Yeah, that kind of situation could produce an ever-growing stream of actionable inteligence.

Posted by remote man 2004-06-23 1:38:40 PM|| 2004-06-23 1:38:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 remote man

Yes I suppose its possible. However Fallujah has, what I call, a high jihadist ratio (you might call it a high asswipe ratio). That is, the hard core anti Iraq govt. anti American anti kfr population is at least 5% of the total population. The jihadist sympathizer population probably is another 15% at least.

In Najaf and Karbala, this ratio was way down, probably below 0.5% and the asswipers weren't homeboys either.

Posted by mhw 2004-06-23 4:27:34 PM|| 2004-06-23 4:27:34 PM|| Front Page Top

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