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2004-06-23 Iraq-Jordan

How we kicked Sheik Muqtada al-Sadr's ass

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Posted by Dragon Fly 2004-06-23 12:02|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

The division estimates it killed at least several thousand militia members.

Nice.

Posted by someone 2004-06-23 12:14:54 PM|| 2004-06-23 12:14:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Apparently Gen Hertling didn't get the memo - this was supposed to be a QUAGMIRE. Good article...can't wait for the networks to follow up on this great news.
(/sarcasm off)

Posted by Rex Mundi 2004-06-23 12:15:32 PM|| 2004-06-23 12:15:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Great article--too bad nobody outside of Rantburg and the Washington Times readership will hear about it! Spread the word, gents (and ladies)!

Posted by Dar 2004-06-23 12:31:24 PM|| 2004-06-23 12:31:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 As happy as i am about the whumping we gave this guy, I think we should learn from the examples of Arafat, Hussein, etc... that his ass ain't totally kicked until he takes the dirt nap. As any new parent can attest to, even a baby with only one tooth poking through it's gums can give a nasty bite.

Posted by Dripping Sarcasm 2004-06-23 12:34:26 PM|| 2004-06-23 12:34:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Dripping Sarcasm while you are correct that this assmuzzle needs a dirt nap...The important point here is how wrong the partisan media was in its dire prediction of doom and failure.

Posted by Dragon Fly 2004-06-23 12:39:58 PM|| 2004-06-23 12:39:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Alternative Headlines:

Tons of Toe Tags for Tater's Toadies
First Herd Stampedes the 'Tater'

Posted by badanov 2004-06-23 1:11:53 PM|| [http://www.rkka.org] 2004-06-23 1:11:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 As happy as i am about the whumping we gave this guy, I think we should learn from the examples of Arafat, Hussein, etc... that his ass ain't totally kicked until he takes the dirt nap.

Agreed.

The important point here is how wrong the partisan media was in its dire prediction of doom and failure.

Um ... no. The "important thing" is somehow ensuring that brain dead people of every stripe and office get clear on the fact that Sadr must face trial instead of saying how the United States will not oppose a political role in Iraq for Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr. This @ssclown has weasled his way through murder, mayhem and mindless savagery. How in hell anyone can think that this maggot has a place anywhere except a jail cell is simply in-f&%king-credible.

Posted by Zenster 2004-06-23 1:12:00 PM|| 2004-06-23 1:12:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Tater isnt Arafat. Arafat spent years establishing Byzantine controls on the Pal security services, and indeed throughout the Pal kleptocracy, so that its taken huge efforts to even begin to clean it up. even so he seems to be on the point of being marginalized.

Tater was just a young preacher, with a famous name, and a constituency among the dispossed poor Shia of East Baghdad. Which he used to build a militia several thousand strong. He decided to hit the mattresses before reconstruction could begin to normalize East Baghdad, and introduce normal politics there. Well he lost his war, and lost his militia. Hes still got his name, and will still try to be a player. But hes pretty marginalized. So much so that when the "friendlies" invited his party to join a national conference (shocking conservative pundits like Tacitus) they only offered him one seat out of a thousand - so humiliating that he turned it down.

Better to jail him now, or wait till the Iraqi govt is more settled - i dont know i'll leave that to the judgement of the guys on the ground, esp the Iraqis. But marginalized he seems to be.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-06-23 1:19:21 PM|| 2004-06-23 1:19:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Zenster: Read

Not everything we read from Rooters is trustworthy!

Posted by Dragon Fly 2004-06-23 1:29:35 PM|| 2004-06-23 1:29:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Thank you for the link, Dragon Fly. Thanks to Rantburg, I have become a lot more sensitive to media bias than in the past. I still feel that even passing the buck to Iraq's government is dead wrong. Sadr was directly responsible for the murder and mutilation of American soldiers and citizens.

While there must be a degree of respect shown for Iraq's sovereignty, a firm insistence upon Sadr's trial and loud protestations of any consideration given to a political future for him would be more appropriate.

Even Fox News is carrying blather like this:

Still, U.S. civilian and military officials have floated ideas about offering al-Sadr's followers various roles in Iraqi society, including jobs within the police or civil defense forces.

Such spineless crap literally invites reestablishment of the usual thugocracy.

Posted by Zenster 2004-06-23 1:48:40 PM|| 2004-06-23 1:48:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 While Fox is much better than CNNABCCBSNBCBBCNPR, I find that they too often focus on issues that support the other side.

It doesn't matter if they run piece after piece supporting Rusmfeld and Bush on Abu Gharib - they are still putting the focus on AG - instead of the UNSCAM. If they run piece after piece of "Did Bush Lie", instead of interviews with grateful Iraqi's, happy to be rid of their Rapist Murder in Chief, or in-depth interviews on what really happened to the WMD's or stories about how the sewage treatment has improved or electricity is at pre-war levels. But yet, if you turn on FOX, I assure you, you will only find stories about DID BUSH LIE? No matter how many flags FOX waves or "kudos" they throw Bush's way, it still benefits "the other side".

How many pieces have you seen FOX run about Kerry's shady past, or Iraqi's grateful for their new services, schools, and support. How many pro-US demonstrations did they cover? PRECIOUS FEW, if you ask me!!

It's not like they can't find plenty of good material to run with. It's available on the blogs daily. Yet instead they almost always run: Our bipartisan panel is here to discuss AG, Where are the WMDs, Did Bush Lie, Is Bush an Idiot with Big Ears?

It's just a more sophisticated propaganda machine, if you ask me.

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Posted by Anonymous5333 2004-06-23 2:27:29 PM|| 2004-06-23 2:27:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 rather than Fox being a very sophisticated propaganda machine for the left, wouldnt them being an incompetent propaganda machine for the right be a simpler explanation? :)

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-06-23 2:35:35 PM|| 2004-06-23 2:35:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 LH - works either way.

Posted by Anonymous5333 2004-06-23 2:48:05 PM|| 2004-06-23 2:48:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Or, perhaps, they're at the mercy of the news wires.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-06-23 2:49:13 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-06-23 2:49:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Allow me to be the first to welcome the return of the Powell Doctrine.

Posted by H.D. Miller 2004-06-23 5:02:52 PM|| [travellingshoes.blogspot.com] 2004-06-23 5:02:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 I believe it was Allawi who said that Sadr would of course be welcomed into politics... after he turns himself in for trial.

I assume this is also the Bush line.

Posted by someone 2004-06-23 5:25:49 PM|| 2004-06-23 5:25:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 This codicil to the Bush Doctrine clearly states that when faced with a quagmire, first apply enough heat to dry the swamp, then kill anything that tries to crawl out. Seems to work well enough. Maybe we should apply it to some of the other "quagmires" that the press is so quick to point out for us.

Posted by RWV 2004-06-23 5:45:12 PM|| 2004-06-23 5:45:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 How many of the dead terrorists are Iranian agents? How many are from Arabia or Syria?

Where is the media on this?

Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-06-23 9:24:55 PM|| 2004-06-23 9:24:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Now Mark, you know exactly where the media is. They've got their head up Clinton's ass. They can't see anything but crap and a gerbil.

Posted by Silentbrick 2004-06-23 11:14:52 PM|| 2004-06-23 11:14:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 Oh my God, and i was complaining about the forum i visit.

Posted by Atabeira 2004-06-23 11:31:14 PM|| 2004-06-23 11:31:14 PM|| Front Page Top

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