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2004-07-15 Home Front: Culture Wars

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Posted by spiffo 2004-07-15 13:55|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 From the WHO WE ARE link at their site:

"The Godless Americans PAC grew out of the historic "Godless Americans March on Washington" (GAMOW) held on November 2, 2002 in Washington, DC. For the first time in history, our nation's diverse community of Atheists, Freethinkers, Secular Humanists and others who do not embrace religious creeds"--

STOP tape.

"Diverse" community? Oh come, come. Y'all are like peas in a pod: You Atheists, Freethinkers, Secular Humanists and "others who do not embrace religious creeds" are like peas in a pod, and I doubt your little group represents all those who would fall into those categories anyway. And it's certain that you're very religious--fanatical even--in your own way. You just wear a different label.

"For the first time in history . . . marched together for civil rights, the separation of state and church, and their full recognition as American citizens."

STOP tape.

Oh, it's not the "first time, " for cryin' out loud! You've been doin' it since the 60's. And lumping everything together won't disguise what you're really up to.

#1: you should be marching for civil rights enforcement--note to self: "this is 2004, not 1964";

#2 marching for the separation of state and church (ususally known as the separation of church and state, for good reason), and filing lawsuits out the wazoo, is already a well-known and practiced directive of your organizations, and has been for years and years. It's also a blantant misreading of the Constitutional mandate that was designed to keep the State out of religious affairs, for the protection of the people;

#3 marching together for your "full recognition as American citizens"?! Now you've got me laughing. Since when have you not been recognized fully, as American citizens? Oh--you were talking about not getting your way. Okay. That makes sense now.

"We demanded "a place at the table" in this great discussion known as democracy. "

STOP tape.

"Demanded" your place? Yeah, so many were stopping you--especially that nasty President Bush and his group, huh? Hey. You were stopped from talking to reporters, from giving interviews, from holding telephone discussions, from printing and distributing your propaganda, from starting up a website, from calling your representatives in Congress, etc. etc. It was terrible for you, huh?

But, ya'know--Democracy is more than "a discussion" anyway, oh ye facist/commie/socialist ones of ~~little~~ no faith--and per se, is not up for "discussion." We kinda like it the way it is.

I'm not surprised this group LOVES the John-John's. Birds of a feather and all.

Posted by ex-lib 2004-07-15 3:26:14 PM|| 2004-07-15 3:26:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 My great great grandparents we're atheists. French-Irish Jewish Atheists who lived on a farm, were facinated by rap, fought in Vietnam, and a bunch of other stuff..

Posted by John Fn Kerry 2004-07-15 3:31:06 PM|| 2004-07-15 3:31:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 "and I doubt your little group represents all those who would fall into those categories anyway"

They never said they did: "GAMPAC, like GAMOW, does not claim to represent every Atheist, Freethinker, Secular Humanist or other nonbeliever in the United States."

"Since when have you not been recognized fully, as American citizens?"

Then vice-president, later president, George Bush (senior) on August 27, 1987, at which time he stated: 'I don't know that Atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God.'

Answered your question?

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-07-15 4:02:26 PM|| 2004-07-15 4:02:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 GB sr did have a tendency to misstate himself, no?

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-07-15 4:07:54 PM|| 2004-07-15 4:07:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 GWB dosen't make the citzenship rules here. Congress does. What Bush may think is just that, what he thinks. It is not the law of the land by any means. Most people could care less what he thinks about it. As long as the US border with Mexico is not secured citizenship belongs to who ever can walk in here in practice. That is the real issue. These "atheists" are not beong denied any rights of citizenship anyhow. They can FOAD if that is what they are claiming. The government bends over backwards not to offend them.

Posted by FlameBait93268 2004-07-15 4:11:11 PM|| 2004-07-15 4:11:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 What a [YAWN]. A partisan group claims to be representing everyone. Hasn't that happened before?

Posted by Bulldog 2004-07-15 4:18:03 PM|| 2004-07-15 4:18:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 I'm an atheist, and I vote conservative. I also understand and respect the rights of others to practice religions, or not to practice religions. I believe that's a founding principle of this country, but they obviously don't.

These asshats are but another in a long, long line of self-righteous, attention seeking media whores that make a claim of legitimacy that falls flat on its face at the first cursory examination of their self-serving 'beliefs', as ex-lib so handily dissected them above. They represent me like the Hindenburg represents Michael Schumacher's F1 vehicle.

Posted by Raj 2004-07-15 4:32:40 PM|| 2004-07-15 4:32:40 PM|| Front Page Top

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