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2004-07-27 Home Front: Politix
O'Reilly vs. Jabba the Hut - From DRUDGE!
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Posted by BigEd 2004-07-27 5:43:45 PM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Many of MM's verbal tricks and abuse of language and logic on display here. Note the "argument":

O: It wasn't a lie.

M: But it wasn't true.

Notice the sleight of hand here through the use of intentionally ambiguous phrasing. A less ambiguous sentence would have been "But it TURNED OUT not to be true." Of course MM can't reply in this way or the blatant deceptiveness of his argument would have been obvious.
Posted by virginian 2004-07-27 6:32:10 PM||   2004-07-27 6:32:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 This is an example of the basis for a compound lie which has made mmoore rich and powerful.
Posted by ZPAZlite 2004-07-27 6:34:39 PM||   2004-07-27 6:34:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 I hope that O'Reilly runs this again and again. It makes Moore seem like a child that won't change his opinion regardless of the facts of the case. The American people will see that. Moore is the one who lies and is the one who gives not a shit about our soldiers or the people of the world. I especially love his assertion that the people of Iraq could have just "risen up". What a damn fool. What an ignorant, arrogant fool.
Posted by remote man 2004-07-27 6:49:30 PM||   2004-07-27 6:49:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 In their own words...

Check out the Flash bits here.

Michael Moore is featured in one of them: Michael Moore A Voice For The Democrat Party...

Have a barf bag handy.
Posted by .com 2004-07-27 6:59:35 PM||   2004-07-27 6:59:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Jabba is pissing me off.

Notice how he CONTINUALLY harps on the death of patriotic volunteer soldiers as "killing children".

Each and every one of those MEN and WOMEN killed in Iraq were VOLUNTEERS who knew when they joined the service that they might get killed. It's what happens when you are a soldier. It's part of the job. When they joined the service, they stopped being "children" and took up the mantle of "men and women" just as all those men and women before them who chose military service. So what if they had fathers and mothers and children of their own... they were SOLDIERS (and God bless them.)

Jabba can suck vacuum. Children, my ass. They were MEN.
Posted by Leigh 2004-07-27 7:11:15 PM||   2004-07-27 7:11:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Spot on, Leigh. His "sacrifice your child" question is a classic -- showing utter contempt for the sacrifice while pretending superior compassion.
Posted by virginian 2004-07-27 7:26:56 PM||   2004-07-27 7:26:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 If you want to piss Jabba off IGNORE HIM. He loves this attention negative or positive. If he asked that stupid question about 'sacrificing' childen I ask him the same question! Oh thats right jabba hasn't found another one of his species to mate with (THANK GOD).
Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter)  2004-07-27 7:38:40 PM||   2004-07-27 7:38:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 I read the entire dialogue...excuse me monologue. Michael Moore is either extremely stupid...a pathological liar...or he is an intensely evil person.

I personally beleive he's hiding behind (barn) door number 3.
Posted by anymouse  2004-07-27 8:09:12 PM||   2004-07-27 8:09:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 any - That's the one with the dollar $ign$ on it.
Posted by .com 2004-07-27 8:11:58 PM||   2004-07-27 8:11:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Moore is the lowest of the low, but I don't think O'Reilly handled it well. Instead of trying to defend the President's position on the WMD's, I would have gone on the offensive by asking Moore questions about Kedwards.

"Lard ass, what exactly does Lurch intend to do anout our presence in Iraq, and how is that different from what The President proposes to do."

or

"Lord Hog-Hog, how many American workers have lost their jobs because of the actions of the plainitffs' bar, in which Edwards is a key player?"

or

"Yes or no, rich boy, should we send troops to Sudan? Why there if not Iraq? If not there either, it doesn't matter to you how many black Africans are killed, does it? Maybe you should discuss that with Obama."

But O'Reilly's real error was not to be munching a double cheeseburger in front of Moore.
Posted by Matt 2004-07-27 10:31:12 PM||   2004-07-27 10:31:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Leigh> right on. These were men, not children, and they volunteered for this duty no one sent them anywhere to die arbitrarily. It's just part of the job - sacrifice, of which, mike fat fucking moore has no clue.
Posted by Jarhead 2004-07-27 11:39:44 PM||   2004-07-27 11:39:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 It never fails to amaze me to watch the LLL moonbats as they struggle to keep a straight face regards patriotism and the issue of US casualties. They would cream their jeans if the number was 9000, instead of 900, yet they must pretend to care. They must pretend to believe that our troops are someone to be proud of, but the Govt isn't. It's the old story. I got it in Saudi Arabia, too: We love Americans and America, but we hate your Govt. When I explained that, as a democracy, the Govt represents Americans (as codified into election law) so you can't separate the two. Those who DO separate the two are outlaws. Full stop. The Saudis would stammer and change the subject - eye contact was "unavailable" after that point was made.

This is what the LLL moonbats really believe in and this is what the DNC is all about.
Posted by .com 2004-07-27 11:55:46 PM||   2004-07-27 11:55:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 JH / ALL - BTW, the Ranger Quartermaster website is having its "Summer Sale" - check it out. That's where you can get your 72 Virgins shirts, heh. You might wanna try one out, JH!
Posted by .com 2004-07-28 12:03:02 AM||   2004-07-28 12:03:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 It's not "Ranger" specific, lol, so Jarines can wear 'em with pride, too!
Posted by .com 2004-07-28 12:06:35 AM||   2004-07-28 12:06:35 AM|| Front Page Top

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