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MSM dam bursts: Kerry's Cambodia account challenged by ex-commander

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Posted by Frank G 2004-08-15 10:52|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 note: knight-ridder syndicates this article all over the country...

oh, and the book comes out today...heh heh

Posted by Frank G 2004-08-15 11:07:43 AM|| 2004-08-15 11:07:43 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 The MSM had better get a clue, and fast: if they insist on providing cover for Kerry's tall tales now, and he wins the election, they're going to have to keep on providing cover for another four years.

And if they do, their credibility will be utterly destroyed; this story is NOT going away.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-08-15 11:38:52 AM|| 2004-08-15 11:38:52 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 I assume this will be in the Tallahasee Democrat.

(just kidding)

Posted by Shipman 2004-08-15 11:40:45 AM|| 2004-08-15 11:40:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 GO OUT AND BUY THE BOOK TODAY!

Lets put this thing on the radar by putting it someplace even the NY Times cannot ignore: the best seller list.

Kerry sold out his fellow veterans, and the truth needs to be told. One veteran to anohter was the way before, in VFW and LEgion halls, but now its time for the public to know what us Veterans have known for a while: Kerry is unfit for command.

Posted by Oldspook 2004-08-15 12:19:14 PM|| 2004-08-15 12:19:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 I have been very reluctant to jump on that story. You might confuse January with February.

But not Christmas with January. Especially when it's such a "turning point" in your life.

If Kerry were a company, I'd sell my shares by now.

Posted by True German Ally 2004-08-15 12:30:57 PM|| 2004-08-15 12:30:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Hey - does this surprise anyone?

Posted by Raj 2004-08-15 12:38:59 PM|| [http://angrycyclist.blogspot.com] 2004-08-15 12:38:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Ahhh! The link's bogus. It was a Boston.com (read - online Boston Globe) search of 'Kerry Cambodia' that returned 0 hits. Don't know how the URL got hosed, sorry...

Posted by Raj 2004-08-15 12:40:31 PM|| [http://angrycyclist.blogspot.com] 2004-08-15 12:40:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Column by Kack Kelly, Not So Swift, in today's Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04228/361477.stm

Yes, I suspect the dam's about to burst. If it doesn't, and Kerry wins, all the dirty water behind the dam will burst forth during his presidency.

One of the big advantages of telling the truth up front (aside from minor considerations like morality and ethics, of course) is that you don't have to keep on telling new lies to cover up the old ones.

So c'mon, MSM, get with the program.

Like Kelly says, not too swift.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-08-15 12:41:54 PM|| 2004-08-15 12:41:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 The German newspaper "Die Welt" is the first here to catch on

Posted by True German Ally 2004-08-15 12:53:06 PM|| 2004-08-15 12:53:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 TGA,

For us non-Deutsch gesprachers could you give us the jist? Is it painting the SBVT ad waco liars or granting them a legitimate place in the debate?

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-08-15 12:57:53 PM|| 2004-08-15 12:57:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 I got as far as "John F. Kerry", and then the rest of it went over my head-- too many words ending in -ung and -ische.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-08-15 1:00:34 PM|| 2004-08-15 1:00:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 FWIW, with Google toolbar, you right-click on the article and pick "translate into English". It does a pretty good job, sometimes syntax, etc. is funky

Posted by Frank G 2004-08-15 1:03:15 PM|| 2004-08-15 1:03:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 The article maintains a neutral stance but seems to see the SBVT as legitimate, especially in the light of Kerry's intent of "correcting his account".

It believes that if the allegations are confirmed that Kerry could be in real trouble.

Posted by True German Ally 2004-08-15 1:03:55 PM|| 2004-08-15 1:03:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 I just ran it thru my own translation program but it does read funky. If you are really interested I could translate some passages but there is no new info there, just that it is the first time I see this topic treated in a major German paper.

Posted by True German Ally 2004-08-15 1:09:20 PM|| 2004-08-15 1:09:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 TGA,

Thanks.

Frank,

It's always been my experience that I could do as well as the translators with my 30 year old college German but that we both miss the, shal we say, nuance that really gives meaning to the article. Are these things getting any better? I know my German isn't

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-08-15 1:10:11 PM|| 2004-08-15 1:10:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 One point of the article is that if the Vets can prove Kerry's Cambodia episode to be a lie, their other allegations in the book would gain credibility. Kerry would lose his "war hero" advantage on Bush

Posted by True German Ally 2004-08-15 1:12:49 PM|| 2004-08-15 1:12:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 #6 Raj - it surprised me. It retured an "error" message. :-(

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2004-08-15 2:18:11 PM|| 2004-08-15 2:18:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 #12 - Frank G - click where? No matter where I right-clicked on the article, it didn't give me a choice of "translate." (And yes, I use Google)

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2004-08-15 2:21:57 PM|| 2004-08-15 2:21:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 This whole story is SEARED I tell you, SEARED on me binnacle!!

Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-08-15 2:45:25 PM|| 2004-08-15 2:45:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 in the text... hmmm - it's the last option above "properties" in my browser when I right click....

Posted by Frank G 2004-08-15 2:49:26 PM|| 2004-08-15 2:49:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Doesn't work for me, Frank G. Maybe something has to be turned on/pre-selected for it to work.

Wish I could find out how to do it, though - it would be a great tool.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2004-08-15 2:53:16 PM|| 2004-08-15 2:53:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 might be "enable third part browser extensions" in internet options - advanced....? I don't see anything else enabled that might make the diff., sorry

Posted by Frank G 2004-08-15 3:04:17 PM|| 2004-08-15 3:04:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 Kerry is not as good a schmoozer as Slick Willy and he's an even worse liar.

Posted by Douglas De Bono 2004-08-15 4:08:42 PM|| [http://www.douglasdebono.com] 2004-08-15 4:08:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 "I think he just outright lied," said Hoffman, a founder of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. "He never was there."

I don't know that I would say that Kerry was never in Cambodia for Christmas. Who is to say where he enjoyed the holidays after he signed on as an operative for international communism.

Posted by Super Hose 2004-08-15 5:18:04 PM|| 2004-08-15 5:18:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 I always say if your going to lie,lie well problem with Kerry he couldn't lie to a 5 yr old and get away with it.

Posted by djohn66 2004-08-15 6:18:19 PM|| 2004-08-15 6:18:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 Here's the Die welt article in English. Sort of.

Posted by GK 2004-08-15 10:20:45 PM|| 2004-08-15 10:20:45 PM|| Front Page Top

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