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2004-08-17 Home Front: WoT
World War IV - An analysis by Norman Podhoretz
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Posted by Anonymous4021 2004-08-17 4:31:25 PM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Definitely having to print this up and read in the easy chair. 89 pages
Posted by cheaderhead 2004-08-17 5:34:50 PM||   2004-08-17 5:34:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 I spent a goodly part of Sunday reading Norman Podhoretz's essay; it's excellent, especially in how it puts today's conflict into the perspective of the longer struggle that's been taking place since at least as far back as the PLO hijackings of the 60's, the 1972 Munich Olympics massacre, and the 1979 Iranian Revolution.

This war did not start on 9/11; for anyone who has been paying attention, this war-- though not our active recognition of it-- has been going on for a long, long time. 9/11 was simply the turning point where we finally woke up, at long last, and started to realize that all those fanatical Muslims chanting "DEATH TO AMERICA!!!" year after year really meant what they said: they really do want to kill us all, provided they don't succeed first in forcing us onto our knees, heads bowed in submission to their dour, hateful, joyless god.

Podhoretz's capsule history of this struggle resonates perfectly with my own recollections; I can't find anything in it to criticize. The only place I part company from him is over his (apparent) assumption that the Democratic Party is sincere in it's criticisms of, and objections to, the war.

I don't buy that, even for a second: I really, REALLY doubt that any of the Democrats who are running their mouths right now (with the possible exception of poor, dippy little Dennis Kucinich) actually believe so much as a single word of any of the bullshit they've been slinging. In my opinion, what the Dem politicians have been doing is trying to tap into the energy of the angry, lunatic Left and turn it to their advantage.

They have deliberately awakened a ferocious monster in a cynical attempt at riding it to a political comeback. But now they can't get off.

It's a good essay; a must-read, especially those who are too young to have clear memories of the earlier days of this struggle. Enjoy.
Posted by Dave D. 2004-08-17 5:46:20 PM||   2004-08-17 5:46:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 If WWIII was the Cold War in my opinion WWIV started in november of 1979 when the Iranians siezed the US embasy in Tehran
Posted by cheaderhead 2004-08-17 5:56:25 PM||   2004-08-17 5:56:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 #2, Dave, I think the Democratic party is in trouble, but it's not a bad thing. Well, it is, in that there needs to be a SANE adversary to help you plot the correct course of action in both war and peace.

Denbeste had a great article on what's happening to the Dems. They are essentially being Hijacked by the FAR left wing. The causes are probably related to the hatred of GWB and the loss of power they sustained in 2000.

They're still a few normal/sane democrats around, but I think we can only hear the loonies right now.

Eventually the loonies will be marginalized and hopefully, they'll return to being... somewhat sane.
Posted by Anonymous4021 2004-08-17 6:05:37 PM||   2004-08-17 6:05:37 PM|| Front Page Top

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