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2004-10-31 Home Front: Politix
The bets are in - Bush to win
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Posted by Classical_Liberal 2004-10-31 00:29|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Watch the odds change massively when Soros drops a millions on the punters just to job the odds, and Soros wants them 2-1 against Bush, 1 to 5 Kerry.

If he does that, I'm going to find a way to get a $1000 bet in on that if I can. I'll take Soros money, no problem.
Posted by OldSpook 2004-10-31 12:39:29 AM||   2004-10-31 12:39:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Bush by at least 5, probably 6, in the popular vote; at least 290, probably 300, electoral votes.

The polls are BS. They fail to capture the most likely voters of all: busy professionals who never answer their home phones. By trying to adjust their poll samples acc to party registration figures, Zogby et al compound the original sampling error. It's precisely these well-educated, affluent voters who, if Democrats, are likely to break from the Dem party and vote for Bush. Quietly, very quietly, of course.
Posted by lex 2004-10-31 12:43:44 AM||   2004-10-31 12:43:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 I'd like to think it will be Bush 53 (295 EV), Kerry 46 (243 EV), but I'm really concerned about 1) the Dem base and 2) the Dem willingness to steal this election. Those lawyers are pre-paid and they're going to cause trouble.

We simply don't know the turnout. Will the estimated 4 million evangelicals who stayed home in 2000 (so says Karl Rove) come out and vote this time? What about all the new registrations? And the fraud?

What I do know is that if this election gets dragged into the gutter it's really going to hurt our Republic. I don't see Kerry has having any honor at all, and if this is close he's going to try everything he can to steal it.
Posted by Steve White  2004-10-31 1:20:30 AM||   2004-10-31 1:20:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Sorry but I've never seen the Dem base turn out in greater numbers than the Repub base. The Dems talk a good game, but the simple fact is that kids don't vote, inner-city blacks don't vote, and the Dem constituencies that have the highest turnout-- jewish liberals and moderates-- are likely to have a far higher defection rate this year than any year since 1972, when ~35% voted against McGovern.

Kerry is an unreconstructed McGovern-Carter peacenik idiotarian. I cannot see him retaining more than 60% of the jewish vote. Fatal in Florida and deeply damaging in Pennsylvania and Ohio.
Posted by lex 2004-10-31 1:35:07 AM||   2004-10-31 1:35:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Jay Cost of one of the best of the pollster-blogs, horserace (jaycost.blogspot.com), agrees:

Anytime you see a candidate's partisans start talking up "unprecedented" turnot, you know that the candidate is in bad shape. Why? Because it never, ever, ever pans out. The last candidate to talk up unprecedented turnout was Howard Dean in IA. And we all know how well that went for him
Posted by lex 2004-10-31 1:50:37 AM||   2004-10-31 1:50:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Steve, the alarming, rising numbers of vicious pre-planned attacks on GOP/Bush HQ's across the country, plus bold acts of ballot fraud & voter bullying republicans voters has taken on distinct overtones of organized gangland style warfare.

The radical Dem leadership is acting as though no matter the election results and I believe your tally is in the realistic ballpark, but even if Bush were to garnish over 60% they will still demand recounts and flood federal & state counts with incredible volumes of tactical legal action. For this leftist elite and their willing, hired Brownshirts, their only war is against anyone who does not tow the party line.

I firmly believe if they possessed the power it would be coup time, instead of election time.
Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-10-31 2:07:24 AM||   2004-10-31 2:07:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 I've maintained that Bush will not be re-elected for a quite a while now. Iraq did not go exactly as planned, and unfortunately we are outnumbered by moonbats. It will be a close one, but it's going to be President Kerry. Damn it.
Posted by Resident Pessimist 2004-10-31 9:32:49 AM||   2004-10-31 9:32:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 RP, I would agree but what has Kerry offered to people who are not rabid LLL? Not much except a list of complaints. There is going to be a huge turnout, it will be close, but Bush will win. Of course the Dems will want to challenge several results and lose those battles too (again).
Posted by Cyber Sarge  2004-10-31 9:45:56 AM||   2004-10-31 9:45:56 AM|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-10-31 3:40:54 PM||   2004-10-31 3:40:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 I recently commented to a Republican friend that the only way Kerry could win would be if the Democrats sweep up enough schleppers from the streets to turn the tide...
Posted by borgboy 2004-10-31 4:51:22 PM||   2004-10-31 4:51:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 I Think that the time has come for everyone to think with their own brains - why worship some fake god who never existed, except for in your own small brainwashed minds - Religion is a joke
Posted by borgboy 2004-10-31 4:54:38 PM||   2004-10-31 4:54:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Post a comment on the wrong thread, borgboy? If not: Huh?

I hope that, after Bush wins, the Justice Department seriously goes after and prosecutes the Dem's standard, massive voter fraud.

If enough of these clowns end up in prison with Big Bubba for a roommate, they might rethink their behavior.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut  2004-10-31 8:25:52 PM||   2004-10-31 8:25:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Phoney borgboy post - remember his style? Not there. Must be 8-10 of these troll turds pretending to be our borgboy.
Posted by .com 2004-10-31 8:57:17 PM||   2004-10-31 8:57:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Nice atheist, back on the meds. Doctor will see you tomorrow morning to talk to you about your anger problem.
Posted by OldSpook 2004-10-31 10:12:12 PM||   2004-10-31 10:12:12 PM|| Front Page Top

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