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2004-11-23 Iraq-Jordan
Another First Hand Report From Fallujah
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Posted by Steve 2004-11-23 10:20:23 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I recently went through a briefing where we are teaching the lads to shoot anybody who comes out w/a surrender flag. The surrender flag is a myth. The only valid surrender is when the enemy comes out with his hands on his head and walks calmly toward us.
Posted by Jarhead 2004-11-23 10:45:03 AM||   2004-11-23 10:45:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 "Among the Americans serving on Iwo island, uncommon valor was a common virtue." Adm. Chester A. Nimitz

If Nimitz looked at these young men in Fallujah (and all over Iraq) today, he would expand his quote to include them.

We owe them so much.

Posted by Justrand 2004-11-23 11:11:10 AM||   2004-11-23 11:11:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Ay Jarhead protocol buffs who know the criteria for inclusion of a battle on the base of the Iwo Jima Memorial next to Arlington? Does an event require a "battle plan", or is it a sacrfice of life (Beruit) threshold that gets a battle memorialized? How will the battles of the WOT be included?
Posted by Capsu78 2004-11-23 12:21:12 PM||   2004-11-23 12:21:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Capsu78-
My understanding is that because of the way the Memorial is engraved, nothing can be added to it. On the other hand, it would seem to me that at some point in the near future, the Memorial should somehow be updated to include Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Desert Storm, Afghanistan, and Iraqi Freedom.

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2004-11-23 12:37:11 PM||   2004-11-23 12:37:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Leave the memorial alone. We're not in danger of forgetting the other battles, and it's not like some particular social or ethnic group is being slighted. Iwo Jima is a symbol that transcends the particular event. IMHO it's far, far more powerful if it's kept simple and not drowned in tons of words and other associations.
Posted by lex 2004-11-23 12:41:20 PM||   2004-11-23 12:41:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Mike,
I recall the battles wrapped around the marble base in a chronological order with space for future "glory".
Posted by Capsu78 2004-11-23 12:45:07 PM||   2004-11-23 12:45:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Oops, sorry, you're talking about inscriptions on the base only? Never mind. No prob with me.
Posted by lex 2004-11-23 12:46:12 PM||   2004-11-23 12:46:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Although, speaking from experience, the best reward is getting your buddies and you home, not in a box...

They better put Cpl Yeager in for a damn medal. Brass ones like that should not go unrewarded. (By now the guys in his squad are probably calling him John Wayne for getting the press that he did).
Posted by OldSpook 2004-11-23 1:46:16 PM||   2004-11-23 1:46:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 "the best reward is getting your buddies and you home, not in a box"

Exactly. No medal or memorial compares to that.

Posted by Pissed off Army 2004-11-23 2:27:09 PM||   2004-11-23 2:27:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 I know of several instances where near dead enemy rolled grenades out on Marines who were preparing to render them aid. It was a fight to the finish in every sense and the Marines delivered.

Anyone still think the Marine in Sites' little video was unjustified in his actions?
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-11-23 3:27:54 PM||   2004-11-23 3:27:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Although, speaking from experience, the best reward is getting your buddies and you home, not in a box...

They better put Cpl Yeager in for a damn medal. Brass ones like that should not go unrewarded. (By now the guys in his squad are probably calling him John Wayne for getting the press that he did).
Posted by OldSpook 2004-11-23 1:46:16 PM||   2004-11-23 1:46:16 PM|| Front Page Top

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Posted by OldSpook 2004-11-23 1:46:16 PM||   2004-11-23 1:46:16 PM|| Front Page Top

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