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2004-12-07 Iraq-Jordan
Shiites plan autonomous region
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Posted by God Save The World 2004-12-07 5:19:08 PM|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 A good idea. A step towards potentially independent Kurdistan, too.
Posted by Sobiesky 2004-12-07 12:05:38 AM||   2004-12-07 12:05:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 I don't have a problem with this. Federalism is a good thing.
Posted by Secret Master 2004-12-07 12:33:50 AM||   2004-12-07 12:33:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 USI? Hmmmm, maybe they may achieve their United States of Iraq in the future, but I sincerely hope it doesn't take 50 years!
Posted by smn 2004-12-07 12:36:11 AM||   2004-12-07 12:36:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Not just our variety, either: look at how Britain has vastly increased autonomy for Scotland, and has come up with intelligent proposals for solving the Northern Ireland mess. Kurds as Scots, Sunnis as Irish: it can work in Iraq.

OTOH Baghdad is the country's nerve center and can't be spun off to one faction. And the shi'a and kurds will ahve to have some meaningful sunni participation in the security forces if the crackdown that's needed is to avoid looking like a civil war.
Posted by lex 2004-12-07 12:38:08 AM||   2004-12-07 12:38:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 We need to balticize iraq.

Balticize - to divide a larger dysfunctional state into several succesful and mutually cooperative states.
Posted by phil_b 2004-12-07 12:47:13 AM||   2004-12-07 12:47:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Indeed, in Iraq where ethnic groups have been terrorized for so long, Iraq is likely to be "balticized" anway.
Posted by Amir-Ashkan 2004-12-07 7:20:53 AM||   2004-12-07 7:20:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Will this be a red or blue state?
Posted by Capt America  2004-12-07 8:29:34 AM||   2004-12-07 8:29:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Will this be a red or blue state?
Depends what most of the people support.

OT, but the mouse just went crazy, moving and clicking wherever out of control until I logged out and then logged back in. What the fuck happened?
Posted by Steve from Relto 2004-12-07 10:34:51 AM||   2004-12-07 10:34:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Bully for them.
Posted by gromgorru  2004-12-07 11:43:53 AM||   2004-12-07 11:43:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Coming from the Shi'a, not the Kurds, this has legs and "legitimacy" - so it will serve the non-idiotarian segments of the Iraqi population.

The South and the North become federal zones, republics, whatever word one wants to use - Baghdad becomes an administrative zone, I guess - and the Sunnis, well, let's see... no oil, no power, no relevance. Yep, this is the sweetest Shi'a revenge possible which does not lead to the wholesale dissolution of Iraq as an entity...

In a sense, effectively, it's a peaceful (for now) Shi'a declared civil war...

The Kurds must emulate this, as closely as possible to prevent the inevitable Ba'athist UN thug Brahimi's attempts to derail / obfuscate the process. Truly, a fascinating development.
Posted by .com 2004-12-07 2:04:47 PM||   2004-12-07 2:04:47 PM|| Front Page Top

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