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2005-01-12 Home Front: WoT

Hacker breaches T-Mobile systems, reads US Secret Service email

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Posted by Dutchgeek 2005-01-12 05:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 l33t H4x0rz Rox0rz ma Boxorz! N3v4h hâ¬$i+ÃtÂ£ l33tness !!

Posted by MacNails 2005-01-12 10:12:35 AM|| 2005-01-12 10:12:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Non-issue. These guys are just puffing things up to make for a better story.

If it was anything truly classified, it would not be on a non-secure system, especially an over-the-air system like that. If they allowed classified to spill there, the agents in question should have their asses handed to them for breaching security.

From my experience:

"Sensitive" documents? That means they wer not classified -otherwise they would have said "classified documents". Bascially, these are things like confirmations of actions and unclassified policy stuff (like the memorandum alluded to in the article). At worst it was "Unclassified/FOUO" info, probably due to personal privacy issues (Privacy laws cause a lot of stuff to be marked for restricted distribution due to sensitive nature of personal info in them - if you dont, you can get sued). If there was any truly classified stuff there the agent who put it there should be fired.

Putting on my "devil's Advocate" hat...

Remember, its in the best interest of the press AND the Secret Service to "play up" the nature of the documents, because it makes for a better story for the press, and makes the uninformed judge/jury think that these documents were somehow more special, and thus more likely to convict and hand down a harsh sentence. And the Secret Service can then use the threat of that to bargain with him to flip to their side.

Posted by OldSpook 2005-01-12 10:20:37 AM|| 2005-01-12 10:20:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Look Here for a definition of FOUO.

Posted by OldSpook 2005-01-12 10:23:26 AM|| 2005-01-12 10:23:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 OS ...good point!

Posted by 2b 2005-01-12 10:30:53 AM|| 2005-01-12 10:30:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 ...and yet some of these hackers are quite bright, have too much time on their hands, are motivated, and have a kind of sociopathic personality that drives them to match wits with in place computer security systems. Computer security might be an achilles heel for a technologically sophisticated country. Hackers don't have to hack into Secret Service computer files; they can go after less secure targets and raise havoc. We need to focus a lot of attention on protecting computer systems that are tied to our infrastructure.

Posted by John Q. Citizen 2005-01-12 10:43:40 AM|| 2005-01-12 10:43:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 While it may not be significant for the Secret Service... it looks really bad for T-Mobile.
... particularly since he was able to target users.
There's something in the back of my head regarding Catherine Zeta Jones, photographs, and a lawsuit.

Posted by Dishman 2005-01-12 11:18:55 AM|| 2005-01-12 11:18:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Dishman. Catherine Zeta Jones. Oh, er, what was the rest of your message? I had trouble getting by CZJ.

Posted by John Q. Citizen 2005-01-12 11:21:23 AM|| 2005-01-12 11:21:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 There's something in the back of my head regarding Catherine Zeta Jones,..

With T-Mobile, I guess you really do "get more".

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-01-12 1:04:15 PM|| 2005-01-12 1:04:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Just a 'connection' of T-Mobile, their spokesman, and a lawsuit by her over publication of 'personal photos'. I'm not saying they're connected to this.

Posted by Dishman 2005-01-12 4:52:42 PM|| 2005-01-12 4:52:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Non-issue. These guys are just puffing things up to make for a better story.

If it was anything truly classified, it would not be on a non-secure system, especially an over-the-air system like that. If they allowed classified to spill there, the agents in question should have their asses handed to them for breaching security.

From my experience:

"Sensitive" documents? That means they wer not classified -otherwise they would have said "classified documents". Bascially, these are things like confirmations of actions and unclassified policy stuff (like the memorandum alluded to in the article). At worst it was "Unclassified/FOUO" info, probably due to personal privacy issues (Privacy laws cause a lot of stuff to be marked for restricted distribution due to sensitive nature of personal info in them - if you dont, you can get sued). If there was any truly classified stuff there the agent who put it there should be fired.

Putting on my "devil's Advocate" hat...

Remember, its in the best interest of the press AND the Secret Service to "play up" the nature of the documents, because it makes for a better story for the press, and makes the uninformed judge/jury think that these documents were somehow more special, and thus more likely to convict and hand down a harsh sentence. And the Secret Service can then use the threat of that to bargain with him to flip to their side.

Posted by OldSpook 2005-01-12 10:20:37 AM|| 2005-01-12 10:20:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Look Here for a definition of FOUO.

Posted by OldSpook 2005-01-12 10:23:26 AM|| 2005-01-12 10:23:26 AM|| Front Page Top

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Posted by OldSpook 2005-01-12 10:20:37 AM|| 2005-01-12 10:20:37 AM|| Front Page Top

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Posted by OldSpook 2005-01-12 10:23:26 AM|| 2005-01-12 10:23:26 AM|| Front Page Top

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