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2005-02-07 Fifth Column
Ward Churchill: "U.S. out of North America. U.S. off the planet. Out of existence altogether"
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Posted by Anonymoose 2005-02-07 8:53:25 AM|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Why am I NOT surprised to see this clown is active in the "animal rights" movement?
One of the absolutely worst "instructors" I ever had at college was an English graduate student who was an "animal rights" freak. Heaven help you if you didn't toe her party line.
Fortunately by the time I ran into this idjit I was a graduating senior. I made a point of wearing leather shoes and eating (gag) McDonald's hamburgers in class. Got a D on my final paper because I argued that if I had to kill a few lab animals to save someone I loved from a horrible disease, well.....at least I'd give the animals some painkillers first.
Posted by Desert Blondie 2005-02-07 9:26:04 AM|| [http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com/]  2005-02-07 9:26:04 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 lovely, Ward. Free speech has consequences as does resume padding, Mr. Non-Indian. Soon-to-be-unemployed Churchill will be shreiking about censorship when he's given his pink slip. Maybe an Air America spot available?
Posted by Frank G  2005-02-07 9:44:49 AM||   2005-02-07 9:44:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 well over a million dehumanized humans to be systematically slaughtered by the SS einsatzgruppen in eastern Europe

How romantic, but then history is a good deal more mundane that the perfesser's 'facts.'

The SS einsatzgruppen I doubt killed more than a few thousand in the first six months of the war. No question there were other pogroms but once the German High Command came to grips with the folly Barbarossa was, SS units that could actually fight were sent to the front lines.

In this I am not saying the progrom ended in 1942; chances are they continued, but using precious fuel and ammunition, inevitable casualties arising from this sort of activity, coupled with vehicle breakdowns and other logistical failures and the successful NKVD partisan 'movement' the mission for the non Waffen SS changed quite a bit.

The perfesser is referring to how large units of SS 'troops' were divided into much small groups and sent to urban areas in thew wake of the adavance of German troops during the first six months of the war against the Soviet Union
Posted by badanov  2005-02-07 9:46:36 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org]  2005-02-07 9:46:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Notice how these Marxist always use Nazi images, though it was the National German Workers Socialist Party. The Nazis were second rankers compared to the brutality of Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot, not to mention the Kim family. Now there are real butchers.
Posted by Thromoling Threaling9717 2005-02-07 9:52:29 AM||   2005-02-07 9:52:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Each of the 4 einsatzgruppen had around 500 to 750 men each, and they had a complement of 150 to 200 vehicles. 3000 men and 800 vehicles were a drop in the Barbarossa bucket.
Total estimated killings by them number around 1.2 million (see Ohlendorf's testimony).
A true horror, A bit worse than you think Badanov.
Posted by JerseyMike 2005-02-07 10:03:12 AM||   2005-02-07 10:03:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Air America spot available?

Talk about shouting into the void.
Posted by eLarson 2005-02-07 10:11:00 AM|| [http://larsonian.blogspot.com]  2005-02-07 10:11:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 ''Although I'm best known by my colonial name, Ward Churchill, the name I prefer is Kenis, an Ojibwe name bestowed by my wife's uncle.''

I would prefer to call him by his new name "Penis" bestowed upon him by millions of Americans. I would love this dick to be "out of existence altogether".
Posted by Gir 2005-02-07 10:49:51 AM||   2005-02-07 10:49:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Then I stand corrected. Sources that I read however said the Eisensatz were in fact much small groups; there were a lot of company sized units doing this kind of activity.

I don't doubt what Germany did to Jews et al during WWII, but my understanding was these particular units were not responsible for most of the murders on the Eastern Front.

I know better now.
Posted by badanov  2005-02-07 12:38:25 PM|| [http://www.rkka.org]  2005-02-07 12:38:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 He won't get the pink slip for what he said, nor should he. He has tenure.

Basically, this means his university screwed up -- the man has thin scholarship and little teaching ability. But having made the decision, they now get to live with it. Break tenure and you really begin to screw with freedom of speech.

No, I don't have tenure myself, wish I did.

JerseyMike, thanks for the history lesson. Rantburg U. shines again.
Posted by Steve White  2005-02-07 1:26:29 PM||   2005-02-07 1:26:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 A good refernce for the Einsatzgruppen issue is "Masters of Death: The SS-Einsatzgruppen and the Invention of the Holocaust" by Richard Rhodes. His figure is 1.5 million Jews and Non-Jews between 1941 and 1943. Rhodes also wrote the classic "The Making of the Atomic Bomb".
Posted by Zpaz 2005-02-07 1:31:08 PM||   2005-02-07 1:31:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 "Notice how these Marxist always use Nazi images, though it was the National German Workers Socialist Party."

And North Korea is actually the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea".

Because tyrants always are what they claim to be.
Posted by Aris Katsaris  2005-02-07 3:27:51 PM|| [http://www.livejournal.com/~katsaris/]  2005-02-07 3:27:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 kenis means.... He who takes penis up his butt.
Posted by Tom Dooley 2005-02-07 4:03:27 PM||   2005-02-07 4:03:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Huh. I just got off work, and haven't checked the earlier thread, but I think I rest my case. It's ridiculous that we're shoving our tax dollars into a fifth-column of ivory tower activists that desire preach the necessity of our Nation's destruction---and can't seem to pull the plug that keeps them spewing.
Oh, well, I'm sure Churchill would still spew, but taking away the backing of a State institution might make a little difference.
Posted by Asedwich  2005-02-07 7:59:05 PM||   2005-02-07 7:59:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Churchill will be canned - not for speech, but for fraud. He is NOT an Amerind, and the AIM (a left oriented Indian organzation!) has disowned him.

The guy lied on his resume - therefore he comitted fraud. That is an offense that can and should (in this case, since it established his bonafides) result in his termination for cause.
Posted by OldSpook 2005-02-07 8:55:33 PM||   2005-02-07 8:55:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 We are at war and in a war, boyz, for the very life, existence, identity, and continuance of democracy, liberty, America and Westernism as we know it. We either fight and win, or we will be suborned or destroyed - the US and democracy is the sleepy, imperfect town or city suddenly faced with a invading horde(s) out to take our identity, our sovereignty, our freedoms, our wealth, our resources, our lands, our women and our pet dogs BY FORCE, AND BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. IF WE GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT, THEY "MIGHT" OR "MAY" DECIDE NOT TO KILL US AFTER WE SURRENDER - after all, the Left> slavers, raiders, bandits, marauders, mafiacrats, and war profiteer, ......etal. armies are people too, who need to be hugged while they steal and kill you! As was said on VH1, lets all call up our Hollywood agents and demand they do their jobs by making us all into nothings, ala "I want to be a star, d*** you, I want to be nothing. I demand you make me into a nothing"!? Let's all sing "IN THE GHETTO", "RESPECT", and of course Hitler's
"PANZER LIED" as we wave the battle banners of Stalin and Marx, like good, proper Clintonian Amerikans of the USSA, from Amerika's sacred, sancosant, Communist- and Left-Socialist majority, "Fascist" heartland!?
Posted by JosephMendiola  2005-02-07 9:53:12 PM|| [http://n/a]  2005-02-07 9:53:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Churchill will be canned - not for speech, but for fraud. He is NOT an Amerind, and the AIM (a left oriented Indian organzation!) has disowned him.

The guy lied on his resume - therefore he comitted fraud. That is an offense that can and should (in this case, since it established his bonafides) result in his termination for cause.
Posted by OldSpook 2005-02-07 8:55:33 PM||   2005-02-07 8:55:33 PM|| Front Page Top

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Posted by OldSpook 2005-02-07 8:55:33 PM||   2005-02-07 8:55:33 PM|| Front Page Top

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