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2005-04-04 Fifth Column

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Posted by ed 2005-04-04 00:00:00 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "Nowhere is this massive theft felt more acutely than in the heart of Americaâs technical development industry, Silicon Valley. Rather than dispatching a few agents to the area, the Chinese have âflooded the zone,â"

"3,000 Chinese front companies that presently operate within the US. The main purpose of these pseudo-businesses, he said, is to facilitate often-illegal technology transfers to the Chinese government."

"one unnamed senior FBI source, âthe Chinese are stealing us blind, the 10 year technological advantage we had is vanishing.â"

A friend of mine owns a building with 20 or so Chinese mainland nationals..all working in and around the SF. bay area. I asked him why so many..in the main his answer was..'They pay their rent on time and they are quiet.'

Sleep well citizens....

Posted by Clereng Thereper1968 2005-04-04 12:53:58 AM|| 2005-04-04 12:53:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Lol. Since we know the FBI can't be trusted to deal with Chinese femalians, I suggest we put out the call for harcore hetero femalians in law enforcement to put together a special force - Anti-Sino Sting & Counterespionage Unit of National Technology. They will not report to FBI HQ, but will be under the Protectorate of Intellectual and Military Property, which will be jointly headed by Old Spook and Old Patriot. I offer my services as a field consultant.

Posted by .com 2005-04-04 12:55:53 AM|| 2005-04-04 12:55:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 LOL!! .com you outdone yerself with that one! I officially submit my resume for consideration for the position of "Field Observer".

Posted by Rex Mundi 2005-04-04 1:54:58 AM|| 2005-04-04 1:54:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 RM - :)

Observer? Lol - still trying to explain to the wife just why you had to have the 0 lux DVR that fits in a shirt pocket and cost so much more, eh? Lol! Hey, I appreciate people who, um, plan ahead - you're on!

Posted by .com 2005-04-04 3:42:06 AM|| 2005-04-04 3:42:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Just today I told the factory that we won't be producing anything for a while. They wanted to know if it was OK to market our design in America by themselves. I said no, and explained about "patents".

Posted by gromky 2005-04-04 4:39:06 AM|| 2005-04-04 4:39:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I have recent experience (cough!!) of mainland chinese women. I'd like to apply for ASS&C*NT.

Posted by phil_b 2005-04-04 4:53:21 AM|| 2005-04-04 4:53:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Why is this story news? Fer crissake, they practically owned the Clinton administration.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2005-04-04 7:45:10 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-04-04 7:45:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 At least no one mentioned the childhood acronym for FBI ... yet.

Posted by ed 2005-04-04 7:59:15 AM|| 2005-04-04 7:59:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Why is this story news? Fer crissake, they practically owned the Clinton administration.

Bush lied, dot coms died! The Silicon Valley is a quagmire! We demand an immediate withdrawal of the hated American presence there! No blood for silicon!

Posted by AzCat 2005-04-04 9:35:54 AM|| 2005-04-04 9:35:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Protectorate of Intellectual and Military Property

P.I.M.P.

-.com, that was damn funny.

Posted by Jarhead 2005-04-04 10:24:06 AM|| 2005-04-04 10:24:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 StrategyPage mentioned the upside, AFAIK ... if only we had a service of patriotic Americans to "flood their zone," however you'd like to take that. ;)

Posted by Edward Yee 2005-04-04 1:48:12 PM|| 2005-04-04 1:48:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 gromky: Just today I told the factory that we won't be producing anything for a while. They wanted to know if it was OK to market our design in America by themselves. I said no, and explained about "patents".

Patents? Aren't those the rolls of paper you buy at the grocery store and install next to the porcelain god?

Posted by Zhang Fei 2005-04-04 3:03:02 PM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2005-04-04 3:03:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 CT: "one unnamed senior FBI source, âthe Chinese are stealing us blind, the 10 year technological advantage we had is vanishing.â"

I really doubt that. The FSB (and its predecessor, the KGB) is arguably the most effective intelligence organization in the world. It doesn't look like the Russians are cranking better hardware than Uncle Sam, does it?

Posted by Zhang Fei 2005-04-04 3:06:33 PM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2005-04-04 3:06:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Zhang Fei

The Russian spies came home with supersecertdesigns who required fraction of micron precision engineering or under one in 100 million parts of impurity (that was what you needed in germanium and silicon aimed for makings transistors for radios in the 300 meter wave lengths). But then they found that the inefficient soviet economy was completely unable to get that precision/that purity.

But China has acpitalist economy.

Posted by JFM 2005-04-04 5:19:58 PM|| 2005-04-04 5:19:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 JFM: But then they found that the inefficient soviet economy was completely unable to get that precision/that purity. But China has acpitalist economy.

The most sophisticated machine tools and semiconductor equipment are off-limits to the Chinese because of export controls. Neither Intel nor AMD, for instance, manufacture their chips in China - they just test them there.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2005-04-04 5:38:24 PM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2005-04-04 5:38:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 I thought Motorola had a multi-billion dollar Chip Foundary in China, and there are other processors being made there too.

Posted by Phil Fraering 2005-04-04 6:36:11 PM|| [http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com] 2005-04-04 6:36:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 "In the year AD 221, Yide was promoted to Cavalry Commander and Deputy Commander of the Capital Precinct and titled Lord of Xixiang. After Guan Yuâs death, Zhang Fei was eager to avenge his brother but indulged himself in wine. In a drunken stupor, he beat some of his officers who were preparing for the attack on Wu, and was subsequently killed by his own men.

Liu Bei always warned Zhang Fei about his bad habits, and ignoring these warnings led to an early death for the courageous and valiant officer. Though in the early days Zhang Fei was nothing but a fighter, he was able to improve himself through time and developed his scholarly skills. Zhang Fei was titled Powerful Lord posthumously."

Zhang Fei, have you been drinking again?.. >;)

Posted by Thrainter Phearong2664 2005-04-04 7:36:38 PM|| 2005-04-04 7:36:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Neither Intel nor AMD, for instance, manufacture their chips in China - they just test them there.

Yeah that came about when the Chinese govt demanded basically a copy of the patents for the chips, the blueprints of how to make the chips and basically wanted even the first copies of the chips. All in all it was a blatant request for the purposes of reverse engineering at which point a couple of months later they would have came out with chips that were almost exactly the same to AMD/Intel variants but at 2/3rds the cost if that high. I believe this was the exact reasoning the high end cpus aren't even being sold in china at the moment?

Posted by Valentine 2005-04-04 8:03:52 PM|| 2005-04-04 8:03:52 PM|| Front Page Top

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