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2005-05-04 Iraq-Jordan
57% now say Iraq war not worth it
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Posted by Thurong Phereng3787 2005-05-04 5:01:11 PM|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 However, if gas were $1.50/g....
Posted by anonymous2u 2005-05-04 17:31||   2005-05-04 17:31|| Front Page Top

#2 It would be nice to know the internals - how many Democrats sampled and how many Republicans, and how many Democrats and Republicans from blue states (which tend to be more liberal). Without these numbers, the polls are meaningless. Besides, the only polls that matter are the ones we have in November on even-numbered years.
Posted by Zhang Fei">Zhang Fei  2005-05-04 17:56|| timurileng.blogspot.com]">[timurileng.blogspot.com]  2005-05-04 17:56|| Front Page Top

#3 I agree Zhang. After the last election, I don't even come close to beliving any poll I see.
Posted by mmurray821 2005-05-04 18:06||   2005-05-04 18:06|| Front Page Top

#4 More honest headline: ''Ginned-up Poll Shows Media Propaganda Campaign Effective''

But do they really think this is going to stand up in November 2006? If so, the Dems are more handicapped by the press than I'd thought.
Posted by someone 2005-05-04 18:22||   2005-05-04 18:22|| Front Page Top

#5 To extrapolate the opinions of 1006 Berkeley students pollsters to the general population ('a majority of Americans') is statistical sleigh of hand worthy of Paul Krugman.
Posted by Raj 2005-05-04 18:22||   2005-05-04 18:22|| Front Page Top

#6 given the numerous suicide bombings and the way the media play these up, this number is expected

however, it is also interesting that the people who were pushing the 'the war was OK but Bush screwed up the occupation' line have pretty much ceased this

it seems obvious now that nothing we could have reasonably done (shoot looters, not abolish the Iraqi army, not abolish the Baathist party, more troops) could have prevented the intense suicide bomb war

in retrospect, we probably should have killed many more Sunnis, we should have arrested many more Sunnis and we should have kept these protokillers in prison with no hope of parole -- we should also have banned Al Jazzera within a week of the Saddam statue falling

we also still need a way to protect recruitment centers and we ought to require all non Iraqis to wear GPS broadcasters internally so we know where they are when they are kidnapped

Posted by mhw 2005-05-04 18:23||   2005-05-04 18:23|| Front Page Top

#7 These numbers don't surprise me given the MSM's focus on suicide bombings. Its time to intensively sweep Sunni areas (using Shiia and Kurd militias) and lock up anyone who can't prove they are Iraqi, has handled explosives or is suspect for any reason. Keep doing it until the violence stops and it will when the Sunnis get the message that things will continue to get worse until they stop supporting terrorism.
Posted by phil_b 2005-05-04 18:34||   2005-05-04 18:34|| Front Page Top

#8 MHW: You think so? I suspect 4ID killing a lot of Sunnis on their way down from Turkey would have thinned the ranks considerably.

Damned Turks (and French).
Posted by someone 2005-05-04 19:32||   2005-05-04 19:32|| Front Page Top

#9 Also need to know the intensity of the opinions expressed. I suspect the war's proponents are still strongly in favor of the war, whereas most of those opposed are only lukewarm in their opposition. A case of battle fatigue, for most.
Posted by thibaud (aka lex) 2005-05-04 21:03||   2005-05-04 21:03|| Front Page Top

#10 57% are wrong
Posted by Captain America 2005-05-04 21:10||   2005-05-04 21:10|| Front Page Top

#11 ..and we ought to require all non Iraqis to wear GPS broadcasters internally so we know where they are when they are kidnapped

Or in the case of coalition partner citizens working for contractors, either bring in arms-capable employees or train them in their use. No one should be kidnapped without a fight.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-05-04 21:28||   2005-05-04 21:28|| Front Page Top

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