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2005-05-06 Home Front: Tech
Earth's air is clean but this may worsen the greenhouse effect
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Posted by Sobiesky 2005-05-06 3:11:43 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 It makes my head hurt. Even without the effects of nasty capitalists, this globe swings between ice ages and nearly total tropical climate, yet neither of those supposedly self-reinforcing extremes ever do end up totally running away.

I mean, glaciation should promote more cooling and further glaciation to the point of freezing the entire planet, via increased albedo effect. And tropification should promote even hotter climate due to blanketing the entire atmosphere with heat absorbing clouds.

Some huge effects obviously control and reverse these runaway senarios. How can the puny work of man be more than a tiny blip in the vast natural cycles of this globe?
Posted by Craig 2005-05-06 07:00||   2005-05-06 07:00|| Front Page Top

#2 Uncertainties remain part of the game because scientists have only a limited ability to track cloud cover and particulates, says Macke

This is the ultimate disclaimer. The same programs that are used to predict rain tomorrow (and we all know how accurate they are) are plugged full of skewed data to show a 1 deg C change in 50 years. Total bullshit.
Posted by BrerRabbit 2005-05-06 07:23||   2005-05-06 07:23|| Front Page Top

#3 I wish these supposed scientists and experts make-up my damned mind!
Posted by raptor 2005-05-06 08:35||   2005-05-06 08:35|| Front Page Top

#4 Anyone remember the ''throw another log on the fire'' song from ''Fallen Angels''?
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2005-05-06 08:37|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2005-05-06 08:37|| Front Page Top

#5 The researchers argue that this trend, commonly called ’global dimming’, reversed more than a decade ago, probably following the collapse of communist economies and the consequent decrease in industrial pollutants.

Gotta hand it to him, at least he didn't find a way to pin it on Pres. Bush or the Joooooos, even though it was 10 years ago!
Posted by BA">BA  2005-05-06 08:57||   2005-05-06 08:57|| Front Page Top

#6 Yeah, if they're not seeing a dimming in China, then maybe, just maybe, their methods are crap. Cleaner air technology my fat flabby white ass.
Posted by Mitch H.">Mitch H.  2005-05-06 09:15|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]">[http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]  2005-05-06 09:15|| Front Page Top

#7 Ice Age? Bah! It was all the fault of those Cro-Magnons and their Thatcherite economics.
Posted by eLarson 2005-05-06 10:06|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com]  2005-05-06 10:06|| Front Page Top

#8 this can only be solved by massive financial grants to Academia with no strings attached (to avoid the apparent conflict of interest....)
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2005-05-06 10:27||   2005-05-06 10:27|| Front Page Top

#9 craig

there are several factors that keep the earth from going to a runaway ice age or runaway tropics

one easy to understand factor is that during glaciation the ocean level drops and carbonate rocks are exposed which allows more carbon dioxide in the air which eventually raises temps

during warm epochs, the carbonate rocks are underwater and they absorb carbon dissolved in the ocean which eventually cools temps
Posted by mhw 2005-05-06 10:35||   2005-05-06 10:35|| Front Page Top

#10 The only thing most scientists want is a grant for further study. Not noble, but hey, scientists have to eat too.
Posted by RWV 2005-05-06 12:47||   2005-05-06 12:47|| Front Page Top

#11 Instead of all these grants, why don't we just melt the polar icecaps and get it over with? It might be cheaper.
Posted by tu3031 2005-05-06 12:53||   2005-05-06 12:53|| Front Page Top

#12 Good idea, sorta like a controlled burn. A controlled melt. Good thinking tu
Posted by Shipman 2005-05-06 13:19||   2005-05-06 13:19|| Front Page Top

#13 why don't we just melt the polar icecaps Back in the 70s when global cooling and the next 'ice age' was the big concern, a number of experiments were conducted to assess the feasibility of doing just that.
Posted by phil_b 2005-05-06 18:02||   2005-05-06 18:02|| Front Page Top

#14 mhw, back in the early days of Kyoto people showed a graph of global temperature and CO2 levels side by side as evidence that CO2 was the cause. They all got pulled when someone pointed out that CO2 levels lag temperature changes and hence this is conclusive proof that CO2 can not be the primary causative agent.
Posted by phil_b 2005-05-06 18:11||   2005-05-06 18:11|| Front Page Top

#15 Throw another log onto the fire.
Cook me up some bacon and some beans.
Don't you know that I love you darlin'.
I can't remember the rest.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2005-05-06 18:18||   2005-05-06 18:18|| Front Page Top

#16 Kinky Friedman:

Put another log on the fire,
Cook me up some bacon and some beans,
Go out to the car and change the tire,
Wash my socks and sew my old blue jeans.
Fill my pipe and then go fetch my slippers,
Boil me up another pot of tea.
Put another log on the fire, girl,
Come and tell me why you’re leaving me.

Don’t I let you wash the car on sunday ?
Don’t I warn you when you’re getting fat ?
Hey, fatso!
Ain’t I gonna take you fishing some day ?
Well, a man can’t love a woman more than that.

Ain’t I always nice to your kid sister,
Don’t I take her driving every night ?
So sit here at my feet because I like you when you’re sweet
And you know that it ain’t feminine to fight.

Put another log on the fire,
Cook me up some bacon and some beans,
Go out to the car and change the tire,
Wash my socks and sew my old blue jeans.

Fill my pipe and then go fetch my slippers,
Boil me up another pot of tea.
Put another log on the fire, woman,
Come and tell me why you’re leaving me.
Yeah, come and tell me why you’re leaving me.
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2005-05-06 18:41||   2005-05-06 18:41|| Front Page Top

#17 Sounder like a purdy good hearted woman.
Posted by Phoebe Snow 2005-05-06 19:04||   2005-05-06 19:04|| Front Page Top

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