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2005-06-15 Home Front: Culture Wars

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Posted by 98zulu 2005-06-15 15:33|| || Front Page|| [11134 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Heh, 98zulu - I feel like you set me up, lol! ;-)

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"pursue an uneasy assimilation into secular, suburban life"

Assimilation? Really? Funny, but I'd say that it goes as far out of its way to be utterly separate and unassimilating as the laws regarding mandatory schooling allow. The story, written from the most sympathetic POV imaginable, nevertheless includes numerous examples of non-assimilating aspects and practices. I can't help but wonder if Marguerite had to keep pushing that pesky hijab back so she could see the keyboard.

The Universal School makes clear its independence from the controversial institution right next door, the copper-domed Bridgeview mosque. Built a decade before the school, the mosque was started by moderates but then saw a power struggle in which hard-liners came out on top. Among its leaders, said the Chicago Tribune in an investigative report, "are men who have condemned Western culture ... and encouraged members to view society in stark terms: Muslims against the world." Last year a member of the mosque was indicted for allegedly funneling money, before 9/11, to Hamas, the militant Palestinian group.

Right. Next door. Bad guys took over. Check. No relation, no connection. Check. Only sweetness and light flow outward from here. Ever hear of taqqiya, Marguerite Michaels? Sucker.

This is a sob piece. Feel soooo sorry for the little kiddies who are made to feel different by society. They are different. They do maintain their differences. They go out of their way and virtually demand they be treated differently in every manner possible. Education? Really? It seems they are not corrected when they spout classic Arab / Paleo / mythology / dogma - they prolly get an "A" for buying into the myths and lies, in fact. Consider the following:

"Assigned by his English teacher to write an essay about his own American Dream, a 15-year-old wrote that the occupied territories should be returned to the Palestinians and 'the Jews should be left to suffer.' More often, however, Universal's students feel resentment about being stereotyped, both in the media and on the streets. To senior Ali Fadhli, the Fox TV show 24, which had a plot this season about a Muslim terrorist cell, is "obnoxious," he says. 'America has moved on to a new enemy. We're treated now like the Russians were during the Cold War.' Being teenagers though, perhaps the worst slight of all is being regarded as outsiders. 'The students are aware,' says Dalila Benameur, head of the social studies department, 'that they are perceived as different.' Says freshman Gulrana Syed: 'It's kind of impossible to blend in wearing a head scarf.' Student Ryan Ahmad, whose dad is his toughest music critic, admits, 'Americans seem to have more fun. Muslims try to be American, but we don't know how. The cultures are so different.' A sense that U.S. life has its own contradictions provides some perspective. Senior Muna Zughayer, noting the use of women as sex objects, says, 'I think it's funny people look at us and say we're oppressed!'

Aw. Breaks my heart. Yewbetcha. Oh, and trot out the sex object meme, Gloria Steinem isn't dead yet, damnit, treat it as universal fact. Um, Marguerite, baby, do you still have your clit? Let's compare the uber-perverse misogyny of Islam to that of the terrible Great Satan, shall we? Asstard.

"fear and anger have grown among many students, teachers and parents as the Iraq war and the mistreatment of Muslim prisoners have provided further reminders of the conflict between cultures"

Ah, Time just renewed its MSM credentials... Haven't they had enough derision and ridicule, yet for their lower than low "journalism" standards? Apparently not, the editors let pass / inserted this inanity. Is that a pair of panties on your head -- or a hijab, Ahmed, er, Gulrana?

Sigh.

Yo, immigrant. One might think it's YOUR obligation to assimilate into OUR society, not the other way round. This constant whine that somehow we should be apologizing to you cuz you're fucked up has to end. Aw... But if you're Muzzies, heh, well everyone must adjust to you, of course, my bad. One might ask, if one was terminally UnPC: If you don't fucking like it, then go the fuck back to your shithole in Islam. Why did you come here and create this outpost of the 6th Century? Are you such morons that you didn't realize that, by being 1400 year throwbacks, you might just stick out like a diseased thumb? Are you really that stupid and self-absorbed? Heh. Fuckin Duh. Time for a thumbectomy, methinks.

Let's clarify something here. You're not Americans. You're not even Muzzy-Americans. You're Muzzies Firstâ¢, last, and always. Unlike almost every other immigrant population, you bring more grief, burden, and bullshit than benefit by your presence. On a scale of 1-10, you're -10. Wank the wank off you wanking wankers. And take Marguerite Sympclit with you.

This is not reporting, it's symp suckup. It's rife with half-assed insinuations and contradictions. It's a puff piece with a heavy dose of blame game BS cuz they feel so bad for being different... It's a Muzzy wankfest - for The Childrenâ¢, no less. Bite me.

This is not assimilation. It's cancer. America does not need the viral baggage of a barbarous sick twisted ideology installed in "boxes" across our land.

Fort Detrick is where we keep shit like this - on ice in Level 5 Containment.
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HAND, Time.

Posted by .com 2005-06-15 16:46|| 2005-06-15 16:46|| Front Page Top

#2 interesting what you brought forward, dot com. based on what was in the original post, I would have said that virtually everything except the 9/11 reference (and substitute "maintaining America's Israel policy" for "changing America's Israel policy") would fit a Jewish day school. Judaics 5 days a week, split between scripture/religion and language. Daily prayer. A jewish environment. An attempt (not always successful) to impart a sexual ethic different from the mainstream culture. Obsession with foreign policy, esp the mideast.

But you add further information that sets things in a different light. esp. the first paragraph you quoted. This particular school was founded on bad principles.

I wonder if it was founded with Saudi money? Many muslim schools in the US are, IIUC. This imposes Wahabism on immigrants from countries where Wahabism was NOT the common form of Islam.

One advantage Jews have is that our communities have financed our OWN schools, and have not received money from abroad.

Posted by liberalhawk 2005-06-15 16:58|| 2005-06-15 16:58|| Front Page Top

#3 Lh - you left out something: you don't whine about everything, Jewish Mother jokes notwithstanding, lol!

I once taught a class of Israelis - all Israelis, unlike other classes which included military personnel from abroad, and they were about the best class I ever had.

That said - and apologies for being pedantic - not assimilating is, obviously, both "asking for it" and the last thing this (or any country accepting immigrants) needs or wants. Where people do assimilate, and that doesn't mean they must adopt the morals or habits of the lowest common denominator (most people are not wild sex-crazed animals - they're regular sex-crazed humans, lol!), they are quickly rewarded by our society - as I'm sure you would agree. Where they do not, and I'm referring to intentionally so, they abrogate the reason our borders and policies are open - and nullify their welcome. Just my take.

Posted by .com 2005-06-15 17:26|| 2005-06-15 17:26|| Front Page Top

#4 "Where people do assimilate, and that doesn't mean they must adopt the morals or habits of the lowest common denominator (most people are not wild sex-crazed animals - they're regular sex-crazed humans, lol!), they are quickly rewarded by our society - as I'm sure you would agree"

Yes - Jews have been well rewarded for adopting the best (usually) of Americas values, both those who assimilated completely and those who retained more of our religion and culture.

Of course AFAICT thats happening for muslims as well. I saw some study lately that muslims in the US have HIGHER than average incomes and education. Thinking of second generation Pakistanis and others I occasionally meet, I think theyre doing reasonably well.

Of course most dont go to schools like this - most attend public school (as do most Jewish children, BTW) And i think youve hit the button on the head about the "whining". Its not the cultural distinctiveness per se - again, this school seems to devote as much time to an English language general studies curriculum as most Jewish day schools (and of course there are some schools in the Ultra Orthodox community that spend almost NO time on "secular" sunjects)
However even those schools have a generally positive view of the United States as a political entity. Which this school does not.

Again I think the problem is Saudi/Wahabi financing. And thats no small problem

Posted by liberalhawk 2005-06-15 17:42|| 2005-06-15 17:42|| Front Page Top

#5 Lol, Lh, you always provide me with a tempting target, lol...

Point One. I don't know about the study you're referring to. I do know that there are plenty of foreigners in the US, in whatever phase of their naturalization process, claiming advanced degrees that are purest 100% USDA crap. Although the US education system is in a headlong slide into PCism oblivion, many of the universities abroad started at oblivion and remain there. Consider the Paki troll Cadet who visited RB just a few weeks ago - or a host of the people I worked with at Aramco, both those with degrees from Saudi "universities" and those from other definitively non-Western "universities"... Many were "engineers"... and I'd say in name only. That they are hired here using those inflated degrees equals a mighty-fine salary. Do they stay on for a long career (read: qualified and productive) - or are they "mobile", meaning they couldn't cut it but their former employer wants to avoid lawsuits and so will only acknowledge, "Yes, he/she worked here from..."?

I've seen a LOT of this in the oil patch - especially since I mainly worked for R&D in the patch. Ph D's who weren't worth warm spit, technically, and were shuffled out, if the company had the balls, or sidelined if HR was full of cowards. So I'll take your "study" with a grain of salt, heh. Been there and done that - for over 30 years. Wanna talk about the Myth of the Indian Programmer? Lol!

Point Two. I agree utterly regards Wahhabi funding, and I have little doubt they were behind the suborning of the moskkk. There's this skinny little strip of land, maxing out at about 40KM wide, running along the eastern coast of Saudi Arabia...

Posted by .com 2005-06-15 18:10|| 2005-06-15 18:10|| Front Page Top

#6 I think deportation is the best way to deal with these people. Even Helen Keller can see that these people will NEVER integrate with our society or any other society.

What opened my eyes was when Holland got out of control. Those people are the most liberal in the world, yet they at least see their mistake. Only with the muslims do the countries of the west have this problem of non-integration. I saw a report on German TV that there are 3rd and 4th generation muslims (mostly of Morrocan descent) that still don't speak Dutch.

What's scary is that nobody wants to see what's right in front of their faces. In the story they want to be accepted, yet reject everything about our society. Huh? Then they turn around and say "Those bad Americans won't let us fit it." These asshats just don't get it.

They're aren't dumb though. They migrate into our countries, have large families, and it's just a matter of say 100 years before they are able to vote in their politicians and institute Sharia Law in the US. Outrageous? Not really if you look at the numbers of immigrants and birth rates. Bin Laden didn't have to fire a shot and they would've taken over America like this anyways. I thought it was a misprint when I read that they are over 300,000 arabs in Dearborn, Michigan. I'm white and have lived in cities with up to 120,000 people and they weren't all white. That blew my fricking mind. I still can't process a visual image of that. In just 1 city?

Still think I'm a crack pot? The historian Bernard Lewis predicts that within 100 years Europe will be Eurabia (all muslim). I know for a fact that the vast majority of Germans are 40+. It's predicted that in 50 years half of the German population will have died and their aren't enough German births to replace them. The Germans have experienced a negative birth rate since 1999. Who fills in the jobs then? Immigrants. And just what area of the world do they come from in droves to Germany?
Even if you do still think I'm a crack pot, look at this fact. Not once did I ever say we should kill them or harm them. I merely said that if they truly want to be part of a society that they can fully integrate into, send them back to their historical lands.
I believe that something must be done now to nip this problem in the bud or it will only end up in civil or religious strife later on. I don't want to see my son and daughter (or any other non-muslim American's) have to fight or die later because some dumb ass politican was too worried about hurting their feelings.
They are simply incompatible with modern civilization. Switch to Ethanol (Did you see the FoxNews article on this in the energy bill today?) Biodesiel, Hybrid cars, and Hydrogen cars and let them wallow in their own oil.

Lastly, I just love the way that TIME magazine dresses up the story like the school was somehow a good thing. Hell, you would've thought they would've photo shop'd a few picturess of cute puppies into the classroom or something.

Posted by 98zulu 2005-06-15 20:05|| 2005-06-15 20:05|| Front Page Top

#7 Lol, 98zulu - I sure as hell don't think you're a crackpot - you're dead solid perfect on-target!

Posted by .com 2005-06-15 20:11|| 2005-06-15 20:11|| Front Page Top

#8 The Statue of Liberty has usually attracted downtrodden people who desire the opportunity to materially improve theirown lot and that of their children. Freedom of expression and religion are also attracters.
Wouldn't Saudi Arabia be more attractive to observant Moslems that are not interested in assimilating (other than running for Congress?)

Posted by Super Hose 2005-06-15 21:31|| 2005-06-15 21:31|| Front Page Top

#9 Heh, SH...

"(other than running for Congress?)"

or fundraising...

Posted by .com 2005-06-15 21:46|| 2005-06-15 21:46|| Front Page Top

#10 Have a look at this article from MEMRI, if you want to know what muslim ~~brainwashing~~ "education" is about.
Quotes:
A Barrier Separates the Muslim's Mind from the Real World, Making Him Lose the Capacity to Distinguish Good from Evil"

"The Muslim Is Fenced In to the Point Where His Mind Is Paralyzed"

Qaradhawi and His Followers Have Appointed Themselves the Deputies of Allah

We Let Terrorism Grow When We Allowed Islamist Thought to Infiltrate] Our Media and Schools

The Arab Media Has Given the Islamists Legitimacy to Kill Innocent People

Posted by tipper 2005-06-15 23:05|| 2005-06-15 23:05|| Front Page Top

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