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2005-06-19 Europe

Blair gambles on appeal to 'People's Europe'

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Posted by phil_b 2005-06-19 05:35|| || Front Page|| [11127 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Time to start talking up Churchill's 'Union of English Speaking Peoples' as a replacement for the UN, NATO, etc.

Posted by Jong Cravirong9792 2005-06-19 08:53|| 2005-06-19 08:53|| Front Page Top

#2 "one of the worst political crises Europe has ever seen"
LOL!

Why this is worse than the summer of '14!

Hey! Who turned out the lights?

Posted by Wilson 2005-06-19 09:45|| 2005-06-19 09:45|| Front Page Top

#3 Such an astounding notion, that somebody actually has to work and earn money to pay the largesse to those who don't! Perhaps they should set up some kind of European-wide government works project that offers tents, worker's uniforms, food, medical care and minimum wage to the millions in exchange for their improving large areas of Wales and Scotland for agricultural and other uses. In fact, there are hundreds of sites all over Europe that could be significantly improved with massive amounts of hand labor.

Posted by Anonymoose 2005-06-19 10:02|| 2005-06-19 10:02|| Front Page Top

#4 #1 Time to start talking up Churchill's 'Union of English Speaking Peoples' as a replacement for the UN, NATO, etc.

Unfortunately that would include the Dhimmi Republic of Canada, and would not include Poland, the Czech Republic, Japan, Italy, and other countries that actually value freedom.

Posted by DMFD 2005-06-19 12:47|| 2005-06-19 12:47|| Front Page Top

#5 I made the deuced "lights" comment. Not that bloody Wilson you keep referring to. Get your history straight!

Ahem. Let me just straighten my collar and stiffen my upper lip. There. Sorry about the outburst, but sometimes a gentleman has to protect his legacy.

Posted by Lord Grey of Fallodon 2005-06-19 13:37|| 2005-06-19 13:37|| Front Page Top

#6 Don't need to be English-speaking, just need to have the same values. NATO took a potentially fatal hit when the US called in it's IOU's on Article 5 "an attack on one, is an attack on all" and was (I believe) genuinely shocked when other NATO countries said "err, not sure about that". You find out who your friends are in situations like that. Much better to have bi-lateral arrangements!

Blair is a funny one - he *is* a socialist, so be careful about lionising him just because he's supporting the WoT (contrast with what support the US would have if Thatcher were in power) - he was in CND and is a fully signed up member of the 'social model' of Europe. He's always wanted a legacy, and with the recent election is mainly a busted flush in this country - so he can't do much here, as his leftwing backbenchers will stop all but the most ineffectual reforms. It's understood he always wanted to be the first President of Europe, but that's not going to happen now, so he may try and, well, 'save' Europe. 49% of the EU budget going on Agricultural subsidies and a further 16% spent on moving the entire parliament between Strasbourg and Brussels on a regular basis is *not* a recipe for future prosperity!

Interesting times ahead ;)

Posted by Tony (UK) 2005-06-19 15:26|| 2005-06-19 15:26|| Front Page Top

#7 Yeah! You're right! It was Grey, not I can remember who Wilson was.... Ambassador to France?

Posted by Shipman 2005-06-19 17:22|| 2005-06-19 17:22|| Front Page Top

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