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2005-06-28 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Bobby 2005-06-28 09:18|| || Front Page|| [11128 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Yes I fully agree we should leave Iraq post haste and also retreat from Japan, Korea, and Germany. In fact we should bring all of our troops home and leave the world to stew in its own mess for a while. This worked very well in the late 18th and early 19th centruries. All those European and Asian powers managed drag the world into two global confilcts. It was only through engagement and containment that we avoided a third War against the Communists. I am sure that we can leave the world to the un and eu and they will keep us secure and ward off any attacks by rouge states of organization. Heck after we return ALL of our troops to U.S. territory I bet all the bad guys in the world lay down their arms and begin a chorus of "Kum-by-ya". End dripping sarcasm.

Posted by Cyber Sarge">Cyber Sarge 2005-06-28 13:08|| 2005-06-28 13:08|| Front Page Top

#2 "There's a groundswell against this war,'" said Bill Dobbs"You can see it in Congress, you can see it in newspaper editorials and what young people are saying to military recruiters: 'No.'"

Good. Then you should have no trouble winning them thar elections in 2006.

Posted by Dreadnought 2005-06-28 13:19|| 2005-06-28 13:19|| Front Page Top

#3 "...The administration appears to be shifting its strategy subtly, focusing more on political solutions to the insurgency..."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Tell that to any insurgent in the crosshairs!

Posted by Tom 2005-06-28 13:20|| 2005-06-28 13:20|| Front Page Top

#4 Jesus, cant we just kill our enemies like the good old days?

Freakin pep talk on Bush's war.

The war's timing was the mistake, we should have been concentrating on 2007 in Iran, and saved our political capital for that war, a good war with a nation state to fight, not this non linear Jihadi crap.

We could have cleaned up Iraq anytime after that with little or no problem, and we wouldn't have really needed an excuse either, besides, "well, we were already here". Was that an option, maybe not.

But here's where things got tricky...

Bush didn't go to war over WMD, he went to war over currency and regional dominance which are one in the same.

Iraq requested that the UN make its oil for food payments to Iraq totally in Euros beginning in May of 2003, and the Saudis had hinted that they wanted to transfer their reserves into Euros as well, that's why the Europeans were so favorable to Saddam, they wanted to stall long enough to establish the Euro as the new trading currency for the Middle Eastern oil producers in order to squeeze the Americans out for good. This would have created significant inflation and eventually a significant devaluation of the dollar had it happened.

No dice though, Bush pushed the timetable of the war up by six months and proceeded to end all currency "transitions". The Iraq war was a statement by the US that we would destroy anyone who even thought about transferring their reserves to Euros.

After all, going to war with the dollar means going to war with America. Why do you think so much of the Iraqi national banks money was in Euros?

Because the whole deal was about American dominance over middle eastern commodities including currency, and we refused to play by anyone else's rules.

The problems that have resulted from this decision include a nuclear armed Iran and a weaker middle east,(revolutions are bad for oil and gas output) but as long as there aren't car bombs in Chicago who cares? At least that seems to be the administration's logic.

The terrorist are an excuse to stay in the region, and ten more years of strategic placement against Iran, Syria and the gang seems to be the order of the day.

If Bush and Dicki were smarter they would listen to McCain and prepare folks for the long haul as that's reality, but George ain't ever been accused of being too smart...he's just acting as the trigger man for the industries that would have been hit the hardest by the currency transfer. Anyway, what's he care he's a lame duck and Dick ain't ever running. The money's has been made, the deals done, and the next joker will have to deal with the problem, not them.

More war to come.

MM

Posted by Mountain Man 2005-06-28 16:33|| 2005-06-28 16:33|| Front Page Top

#5 Hey Yahoo, thanks for reminding me to tune in tonight. I almost forgot.

Posted by 2b 2005-06-28 16:53|| 2005-06-28 16:53|| Front Page Top

#6 he went to war over currency
Damn, that explains it.
Fear the Federal Reserve.

Posted by Alcoa Good Things Ya 2005-06-28 18:01|| 2005-06-28 18:01|| Front Page Top

#7 Why do you think so much of the Iraqi national banks money was in Euros?

And yet our troops found stashes of millions in US currency.

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2005-06-28 18:39|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-06-28 18:39|| Front Page Top

#8 After reading Mountian Man's comment, I googled "UN iraq euros currency" and found some actual news about Iraq's switch from dollars to Euros in 2000 and a bunch of tinfoil-hat type sites, including ZMag, a far-far-far-left publication. So color me unconvinced. Bobby's comments from the original post confused me -- what is the right thing to do, Bobby? Leave or stay? I couldn't figure out what you would prefer. Not that I care.

On the other hand, Cyber Sarge's comments were crystal clear.

Posted by Tibor 2005-06-28 18:57|| 2005-06-28 18:57|| Front Page Top

#9 Damn, currency, it's even better than oil.

Posted by Shipman 2005-06-28 20:05|| 2005-06-28 20:05|| Front Page Top

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