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2005-07-13 Home Front: WoT

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Posted by mhw 2005-07-13 08:20|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Apostate crossreligionist kafir-loving slipspeakers engaged in mass desecration of the stinking book. Can I get a fatwa on this anyone?

Posted by Tkat 2005-07-13 08:51|| 2005-07-13 08:51|| Front Page Top

#2 They don't have to give us free korans to make nice. All they have to do is start turning in suspected terrorists before they blow shit up, then and only then will we want to cozy-up to them.

Posted by Uleger Ebbusing5295 2005-07-13 08:59|| 2005-07-13 08:59|| Front Page Top

#3 Fred speculates that the CAIR version of the Koran will have the jihad sections dumbed down.

This is almost certainly true because there has not yet been a translation done by someone other than a believer or apologist. However, the more insidious problem is that the Quran is so poorly written (many words are obviously left out and the sentence structure is jumbled partly so that it will produce rhyming and other poetical devices and partly because of unknown reasons) with no rational form of organization that virtually no readers can get the real drift of it.

Posted by mhw 2005-07-13 09:09|| 2005-07-13 09:09|| Front Page Top

#4 I can't help but think this is an open invitation for anyone who has a predisposition to desecrating the thing.

Then CAIR will cry bias and racism, as they did with the burned remains of a koran (which later turned out to be the doings of a muslim grad student who had a fire).

Posted by PlanetDan">PlanetDan 2005-07-13 09:11|| 2005-07-13 09:11|| Front Page Top

#5 many words are obviously left out and the sentence structure is jumbled partly so that it will produce rhyming and other poetical devices and partly because of unknown reasons

The author was an idiot? The copyists were idiots?

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2005-07-13 09:36|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-07-13 09:36|| Front Page Top

#6 This Koran has been provided by the Gideons.

Posted by Chris W.">Chris W. 2005-07-13 10:01|| 2005-07-13 10:01|| Front Page Top

#7 RC

Probably not idiots.

There are theories about both the words left out and the sentence structure.

One reason for both is that Arabic was probably not a written language or just in its infancy at the time of most of the koran's composition. If, as thought, many parts of the quran were verbally transmitted for a period of time, the poetic devices were needed to facilitate memorization.

Another reason is that the Koran's compilation was very much an ad hoc sort of affair. Moslem will admit that the arrangement was done without regard to theological or chronological order. Instead, the chapters were cobbled together by people who were thought to be friends of Mohammud's companions and the chapters were then arranged in order of longest chapter to shortest chapter (excpet for the first chapter).

Posted by mhw 2005-07-13 10:08|| 2005-07-13 10:08|| Front Page Top

#8 Are they printed on soft paper?

Posted by Jackal">Jackal 2005-07-13 10:10|| home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]">[home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2005-07-13 10:10|| Front Page Top

#9 Fred speculates that the CAIR version of the Koran will have the jihad sections dumbed down.
That was me what speculated.

Posted by Steve">Steve 2005-07-13 10:44|| 2005-07-13 10:44|| Front Page Top

#10 Yea! Free kindling!

Posted by mmurray821 2005-07-13 10:57|| 2005-07-13 10:57|| Front Page Top

#11 I would be scared that I would mishandle the Koran while reading it. I do a lot of reading when I am sitting on the throne and the book might slip and fall into the bowl. Also would I need a pair of gloves in order to handle the Koran or just a give my hands a good scrubbing before turning pages? What if I run across a deep theological question, will CAIR have a hotline for me to call? For instance, if you are trying to kill and infidel, but also take out a Jew do you get double bonus points into heaven? Would you get more virgins in paradise? What if I am blowing myself up in a crowded area, kill many Jews and Infidels, but also wipe out a group of Muslim school children, is that a wash? How bout if my guide to paradise gives me the wrong address and I accidentally blow myself up in a devote market place instead of a Jewish/Infidel one, do I still get the heaven/virgins deal? If not does my guide also share my shame/fate? I could go on but you get my point, they need a hotline to answer these questions that will come up. Excuse me I need to go read my Koran.

Posted by Cyber Sarge">Cyber Sarge 2005-07-13 10:58|| 2005-07-13 10:58|| Front Page Top

#12 I'm with Jackal. I'm down to the last few pages on my old one...

Posted by tu3031 2005-07-13 11:02|| 2005-07-13 11:02|| Front Page Top

#13 Fred speculates that the CAIR version of the Koran will have the jihad sections dumbed down.

And so the Muslims continue to practice Al-Taqiyah and sow the seeds of confusion and dissent among the hated Infidels just as they have for 14 centuries. Wake me up when someone of note in the West gets it. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Posted by AzCat 2005-07-13 11:33|| 2005-07-13 11:33|| Front Page Top

#14 Hmmm, maybe we could write up a few versions of our own, and have complimentary copies dispersed as their own to the young muslims. Have them read new passages that would be to our favor.
Worth a go don't ya think.

Posted by Jan 2005-07-13 12:21|| 2005-07-13 12:21|| Front Page Top

#15 I think this is a ploy by CAIR to generate incidents of Koran bashing that they can then use to further their agenda through their ACLU Komrades...it is perfect as it allows plausible deniability on their part and will undoubtedly allow them to portray themselves as victims.

Posted by mjh 2005-07-13 12:26|| 2005-07-13 12:26|| Front Page Top

#16 Isn't it bad to allow infidels to even touch the Koran? Didn't our guards have to wear gloves? How is it possible to simply give out the book to anyone that asks?

This is certainly the cliffnotes version or else CAIR is filled with liars, or both.

Posted by rjschwarz">rjschwarz 2005-07-13 13:25|| 2005-07-13 13:25|| Front Page Top

#17 Recall the mini-riot reported by one of the Iraqi bloggers when some soldier touched a qu'uran in the early days after the war?

Posted by .com 2005-07-13 13:34|| 2005-07-13 13:34|| Front Page Top

#18 Isn't it bad to allow infidels to even touch the Koran?

These won't count. After CAIR edits out all the "Kill the Infidels and Evil Joooos!" stuff it won't really be the Qur'an anymore now will it?

Posted by AzCat 2005-07-13 16:14|| 2005-07-13 16:14|| Front Page Top

#19 According to some of the things I know, an English version of the Koran (Qu'Ran) is not a "true" version and thus does not count as a "holy book". The only "true" version of a Koran (Qu'Ran) is written in Arabic and that's what makes it "holy".

Thus, an English translation cannot be desecrated as it is not a "true" translation and is fit for reading only by infidels.

This, of course, as some have pointed out already, is only another part of the deception campaign created around the Koran (Qu'Ran) since its original compilation by what many have described as an apostate, demon-ridden, pedophilic, moon-worshipping death cult leader who got his ass kicked once by some Jews in Jerusalem and upon whom he swore revenge.

Posted by LC FOTSGreg">LC FOTSGreg 2005-07-13 17:11|| 2005-07-13 17:11|| Front Page Top

#20 Couple points:
Here's a good site to cross-reference any koran against.
Here's a source for the 72 raisins/virgins issue. Basically, a scholar claims it was originally in Syro-Aramaic not Arabic - hence the confusion.

Posted by Xbalanke 2005-07-13 17:38|| 2005-07-13 17:38|| Front Page Top

#21 mhw: the Quran is so poorly written (many words are obviously left out and the sentence structure is jumbled partly so that it will produce rhyming and other poetical devices and partly because of unknown reasons) with no rational form of organization that virtually no readers can get the real drift of it.

But you gotta remember, the Qur'an is still regarded as the epitome of perfection in Arabic, both spoken and written. Sez a lot about the culture, doesn't it? I laughed my arse off reading Raphael Patai's analysis.

Posted by Asedwich">Asedwich 2005-07-13 19:56|| 2005-07-13 19:56|| Front Page Top

#22 islamundressed.com has a lengthy, but detailed dissestion of the Koran and makes an excellent case that mohammedism is nothing more than a code to allow arabs to be imperial leaders. mo was always at war or raiding and islam is the only 'religion with extensive discussions on the best ways to torture, kill, enslave, impoverish, dominate, etc anyone who is not a member of mohammedism.

check it out.

Posted by Brett 2005-07-13 20:45|| 2005-07-13 20:45|| Front Page Top

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