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2005-07-27 Terror Networks & Islam

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Posted by mojo 2005-07-27 17:11|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Yusuf al-Qaradawi, an Egyptian televangelist based in Qatar

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OK lets have a contest... Caption this photo of Qaradawi...

Posted by BigEd 2005-07-27 18:41|| 2005-07-27 18:41|| Front Page Top

#2 "Tammy Faye__ come out here and sing for the people."

Posted by Snerong Unolugum6372 2005-07-27 18:54|| 2005-07-27 18:54|| Front Page Top

#3 I loved you, so I drew these tides of men into my hands
and wrote my will across the sky in stars
To gain you Freedom, the seven-pillared worthy house,
that your eyes might be shining for me
When I came.

Posted by Secret Master 2005-07-27 18:59|| 2005-07-27 18:59|| Front Page Top

#4 Or, if you like:

âO Mujtahid! Figure thee in a garden of roses and hyacinths with the evening breeze waving the cypress-heads, a fair youth of twenty sitting by thy side and the assurance of perfect privacy. What, prithee, would be the result?'

The holy man bowed the chin of doubt upon the collar of meditation; and, too honest to lie presently whispered, 'Allah defend me from such temptation of Satan!"

(Richard Burton)

Posted by Secret Master 2005-07-27 19:24|| 2005-07-27 19:24|| Front Page Top

#5 SU 6372 - that's pretty f*&king funny! I'm actually LOL! hheee heeee

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-07-27 19:34|| 2005-07-27 19:34|| Front Page Top

#6 "Jessica Hahn... come this way; I've heard a lot of good things about you!"

Posted by Raj 2005-07-27 20:25|| 2005-07-27 20:25|| Front Page Top

#7 Geez. What's with the storm of people agreeing with me this week.

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2005-07-27 20:56|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-07-27 20:56|| Front Page Top

#8 BigEd-

"...These two goyim walk into a bar..."

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2005-07-27 21:10|| 2005-07-27 21:10|| Front Page Top

#9 The only thing I'd disagree with mojo is the "slowly dying off".

Islam has less - at an extreme maximum - 50 years to get its house totally in order, and by that I mean something akin to a non-practising Catholic - i.e. someone to whom their faith is a private affair.

Why? Events are spiralling out of control - the genie the Islamists finally let loose on 9/11 (but which we were warned about through events over the previous decade) has awoken *huge* numbers of people - and certainly not just in the West. Situations such as mass deportations, annihilation of holy sites and saturation nuclear strikes of civilian populations are being debated openly, and at *all* levels of society (witness Tancredo). If Bin Laden is still able to get any unfiltered comms from the outside world he must be thinking 'oh fuck', because it's not happening the way he wanted it to - he wanted a full-on religious war, instead he's got more and more people *everywhere* finding out about Islam and generally not liking what they hear. The Russians still have plenty of bombs left, and they and the Chinese are capable of killing 40 million of *their own people!*, so why would they care about killing anyone else?

Personally, I have spent almost the last four years examining what it means to be a Westerner. I've had years, nay decades of being told that the West is no better than anything else, and our economic system is unfair and we *always* treat people with darker skin than us as though they are subhumans and that our way of life is shit because apparently all we think about is money or there's no mysticism in our lives and we should treat other cultures as though they're equal even though they treat women like cattle or kill their new born daughters because they wanted a son or their method of worship is 'cleaner' than ours because they have no 'idols' or any one of a thousand things that says the West is the worse thing that was ever invented.

Well, FUCK THAT! - the first piss-ant country other than a Western country that can put a man on the moon will get a golfers clap from me. Why? because 'The West' will be on Mars by then, or in colonies in space. And 'The West' is not just the US, although it has become the purest embodiment of what the West is - it's more a set of values and an ideal, an understanding that individuals are more important than the group, and freedom is precious and is worth fighting for and property is for *people*, not for governments, and laws apply equally to everyone. Of course these values are not always lived up to, but try we do and we continue to do so. What that means is 'The West' can be anywhere on the planet, anywhere that those values have a chance to take root and grow.

And maybe, just maybe, there's a chance for an Islamic 'West'. But there will never, ever be a West that is Islamic.

So Mr Taheri, you have your work cut out. I admire your balls in saying what you've said, but the sands of time are running out, and you have a hard road ahead of you. You'll get no help from me, your people have to tread that road themselves, as every free people have had to do. I'm not even sure I wish you luck, I've heard too much hatred for me and people like me from your brethren...

Posted by Tony (UK) 2005-07-27 22:04|| 2005-07-27 22:04|| Front Page Top

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