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2005-09-22 Iraq
Anger grows in Basra over UK raid
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Posted by Dan Darling 2005-09-22 00:10|| || Front Page|| [7 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 WTF. They shouldn't apologize. They better not.
Compensation?!
Geez
Posted by Phuter Shimp8358 2005-09-22 02:05||   2005-09-22 02:05|| Front Page Top

#2 sorry my computer is acting up that was me
Posted by Jan 2005-09-22 02:06||   2005-09-22 02:06|| Front Page Top

#3 
There was a riot that occured as the British pulled up to the police station. There is no apology required for removing the prisoners from the center of a riot.
Posted by RG 2005-09-22 03:08||   2005-09-22 03:08|| Front Page Top

#4 British media is reporting that al-Sadrites were effectively in control of Basra policing. The Brits who attacked the jail did not attack a national Iraqi force.

Apparently, both Sunni and Shiite Iraqis are chosing Islamic constitutions. I have to ask: has the billions spent in Iraq by Americans, been wasted to the benefit of the same kind of Islamofascist animals who perpetrated the 9-11 atrocities?

Even oil production in Iraq is worse than the post Saddam levels of 2.3 million per day. Sabotage has reduced production to 1.6 million PD. Either get tough or get out. I argue for getting tough. Why do so many Rantburgers support status quo policies in Iraq? Something is not penetrating.
Posted by Vlad the Muslim Impaler 2005-09-22 03:49||   2005-09-22 03:49|| Front Page Top

#5 If the Brits gunned that crowd down they wouldn't be nearly so quick to start another riot.
Posted by mac 2005-09-22 05:27||   2005-09-22 05:27|| Front Page Top

#6 I doubt that would have worked - never did in Northern Ireland and would give the Islamonazis a cause. About time the Brits stopped co-operating on key infrastructure projects. Let it become the shithole it once was. Spiritual poverty breeds intellectual poverty breeds social poverty.
Posted by Howard UK 2005-09-22 07:27||   2005-09-22 07:27|| Front Page Top

#7 Yep, billions of dollars spent and thousands of lives lost just to create another fascist Islamic hell-hole which will no doubt be a source of terrorism in the West for years to come. Neato.
Posted by Gleack Glinerong9445 2005-09-22 08:10||   2005-09-22 08:10|| Front Page Top

#8 The delusions start early today...
Posted by JerseyMike 2005-09-22 08:40||   2005-09-22 08:40|| Front Page Top

#9 this may point to political mistakes by Sistani - by going for a united Shiite front at the national level, it makes it difficult tor Jaafari to take on the locals in Basra - Sadrists and SCIRI. Ultimately the Shiite alliance looks less and less tenable - but will the more moderate Shiitte elements be willing otto rely more on Kurds, and even Sunni Arabs?
Posted by liberalhawk 2005-09-22 11:15||   2005-09-22 11:15|| Front Page Top

#10 "Oops, somebody blew up your power lines again, you say. Gosh, awfully sorry, but we're quite busy with the riots and all. Hope you get that fixed real soon. Bye."
Posted by mojo">mojo  2005-09-22 12:00||   2005-09-22 12:00|| Front Page Top

#11 HUK: I doubt that would have worked - never did in Northern Ireland and would give the Islamonazis a cause.

British forces never pressed it in N Ireland. The British public got cold feet. This kind of thing works but you either have to have domestic public support or not have to worry about public support at all (i.e. like the Chinese government). There is no chance of British public support for this kind of thing. It works, but there is no public support for it. There is also no chance that the Labor party would support it. The American public would certainly be horrified - look at the reaction after the hazings at Abu Ghraib.
Posted by Zhang Fei 2005-09-22 16:07|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2005-09-22 16:07|| Front Page Top

#12 LH: this may point to political mistakes by Sistani - by going for a united Shiite front at the national level, it makes it difficult tor Jaafari to take on the locals in Basra - Sadrists and SCIRI.

I've said from the beginning that Sistani is a mook who can't tie his own shoelaces. He is not a factor, despite coalition and media efforts to prop him up. Sadr is a factor. Zarqawi is a factor. Al-Douri is a factor. Sistani is just a mook who'll be dragged around by whichever player wins. He is not a player in his own right.
Posted by Zhang Fei 2005-09-22 16:12|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2005-09-22 16:12|| Front Page Top

#13 he may be a mook, but its his guys sitting in the Baghdad ministries now - not Zarqs, or Douris, or Sadrs. He has been skillful in many ways - and i can see arguments (form his POV) for the broad Shiite alliance - I just think its causing problems now.
Posted by liberalhawk 2005-09-22 16:15||   2005-09-22 16:15|| Front Page Top

#14 It seems like he's the only one of those guys not engaged in violence.

btw, is there any anger in Britain over the capture of two troops?
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-09-22 16:41||   2005-09-22 16:41|| Front Page Top

#15 Gee, I wonder if Britain has any more of those old Chieftans with the flamethrowers? I'm sure that would make an EXCELLENT riot-dispersal weapon. Not to mention a bit of a deterrent factor.

Sadr and his Tots need to be reduced to the crud at the bottom of a grease trap, and soon. That's absolutely essential if there is to be peace in Iraq in the near future.
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2005-09-22 16:42|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]  2005-09-22 16:42|| Front Page Top

#16 Good point, Mrs. Davis.

It's my personal opinion that this is a major, class action, fuckup on the part of the British.

It does nothing to encourage the myth that "democracy" is working in Iraq, that the Iraqi police and military have any independent initiative aside from being lackeys to the American and British occupation---or that Iraqis will be given the capacity for sovereignty and home rule. Nope, it sure looks like a double standard, doesn't it?
Local law is apparently good enough for the locals, but certainly not for the Brits. Has anyone even wondered what the Brits in Arab dress were up to?
Posted by Omolusing Glurong4284 2005-09-22 23:49||   2005-09-22 23:49|| Front Page Top

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