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2005-10-13 Home Front: WoT

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Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-10-13 17:14|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Great, we are all f00ked.

Posted by mmurray821 2005-10-13 18:21|| 2005-10-13 18:21|| Front Page Top

#2 Maybe. But the reality is that if we keep adding missions to the military's plate, sooner or later we're gonna break it.

Our military is the best there is -- but that doesn't just happen out of thin air. It happens because of a major investment in training, doctrine and equipment. They've got enough on their plates right now.

Doesn't mean we undo SOCOM. Just means we recognize that this stuff isn't one-size-fits-all.

Posted by lotp 2005-10-13 20:09|| 2005-10-13 20:09|| Front Page Top

#3 Don't disagree, but there is a humint aspect to military intelligence that I do not wish to see anywhere near the CIA and the CIA has not established that it can do the balance at all. I would prefer to see a new agency set up for clandestine ops that is off books. DOD seems to be the least best place to park it because of Geneva, etc. Perhaps in the Department of Energy. If you've got a real sense of humor, put it in Education.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-10-13 20:26|| 2005-10-13 20:26|| Front Page Top

#4 Mrs. Davis is exactly right. HUMIT, tactical intelligence (without a highly bureaucratic overlay) is precisely what is needed in the WoT.

Besides, CIA has very, very few people on the ground. This has been Goss' admission from the onset. He is currently in a major internal battle with the Clintonoid (like hemoroids) within the CIA structure. It takes DECADES to build an effective HUMIT corp -- we ain't got no decades.

Posted by Captain America 2005-10-13 21:50|| 2005-10-13 21:50|| Front Page Top

#5 CIA to head Clandestine Ops

I'll end the thread by agreeing with mmurray821.

we're f00ked

Posted by Red Dog 2005-10-13 23:00|| 2005-10-13 23:00|| Front Page Top

#6 My only hope is that when real HUMINT is needed, someone in DoD will do what is needed and make the organization to do the deeds. Maybe I am being wishful, but is it possible that real HUMINT will be done by someone without publicity, and it will not involve some phony outfit like the NCS. I wonder if this big bureaucracy is just a diversion.

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2005-10-13 23:21|| 2005-10-13 23:21|| Front Page Top

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