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2005-10-13 Caribbean-Latin America
Missionaries Ordered to Leave Venezuela
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Posted by DanNY 2005-10-13 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 This is an irreversible decision that I have made

Just don't call him a dictator.
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2005-10-13 07:28|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2005-10-13 07:28|| Front Page Top

#2 Is anyone really suprised one of the Corner Stones of Socialism is Aitheism. Just ask our neighborhood LLL's, ACLU, ect.... Hugo is just trying to get his people worshipping the one true god Hugo Chavez, Kinda like the one true god in Nork land Kim Jong Il's father and the Prince Kim Jong Il himself. Socialism is just one of those ideas that on paper make sence but when they hit reality and Human Nature they just dont fly and you get Stalin, Mou Sa Tung, Kim Jong Il, Hugo Chavez, ect..... ya know everyone is equally poor exept of course the leadership and thier family which for some reason live like kings.
Posted by C-Low 2005-10-13 10:52||   2005-10-13 10:52|| Front Page Top

#3 C-Low - Let's hold on there, son. It's very simple: Stupid is as stupid does. Atheism has nothing to do with it- you need to get a massive grip on reality.

People seeking power at all costs, indeed, seldom have time for anything but a mirror, but equally true is that religion is used for personal gain all the time. Get religion out of the equation - it's a false test. Some of the best friends you have on this planet are, like me, atheists. I support your right to believe as you see fit - as long as you stay out of everyone else's business. The Islamists fail precisely this test, in a spectacularly bloody barbaric brutal fashion, thus they are forfeit, IMHO. Don't stoop to their level.

The biggest lie in the entire history of mankind is, "If you're not like me, you're [bad, broken, wrong, damned, etc - choose one]."

Thank you for your attention. As you were.
Posted by .com 2005-10-13 11:06||   2005-10-13 11:06|| Front Page Top

#4 However, it's an absolute requirement that socialist dictatorships break the links people have to their faith. If you're building a state where the state is everything, you can't have people thinking independently, and you can't allow a competing organization to provide for the needs (material or spiritual) of the people.

Not all athiests are socialists. But all hard-core socialists are virulent athiests.
Posted by Steve White">Steve White  2005-10-13 11:17||   2005-10-13 11:17|| Front Page Top

#5 I stand by my post, Doc. Don't make me come over there, lol.
Posted by .com 2005-10-13 11:23||   2005-10-13 11:23|| Front Page Top

#6 Hugo has made his law: now let him enforce it. Don't be surprised if these people simply don't obey. Sure, he'll kill a bunch of them, but if they are true believers they will continue all the same.
Posted by Secret Master 2005-10-13 13:25||   2005-10-13 13:25|| Front Page Top

#7 The expulsion of these missionaries has nothing to do with their religion and everything to do with being Americans. It is another exercise in drawing attention to the "external enemy".
Posted by TMH 2005-10-13 19:10||   2005-10-13 19:10|| Front Page Top

#8 he'll plant weapons as an excuse for killing them. Hugo needs to die soon, preferably by his own hand - hint hint
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2005-10-13 20:27||   2005-10-13 20:27|| Front Page Top

#9 Perhaps there's and idle Syrian who could give him some tips.
Posted by Lt. Scott 2005-10-13 20:30||   2005-10-13 20:30|| Front Page Top

#10 ...Wondering why we've not heard anything about the expulsion of ALL Christian missionaries from Cuba earlier this year.
Oh, sorry - Castro would never do anything wrong.

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2005-10-13 20:43||   2005-10-13 20:43|| Front Page Top

#11 There's a big difference between those honest men and women who've figured out atheism for themselves, then live cheerfully with the results (my adored great uncle Bill came back from fighting WWII in Germany stripped of his belief in God, and is one of the most interesting men I know.) The problem comes when dictators use their -ism of choice to forcibly separate the peepul from their moral foundations rooted in the community's historic religion. This generally follows on the permanent removal of the thinking class of the society: teachers, priests/ministers, village elders...After which the Party becomes the religion, and the Fearless Leader the replacement god. But that is an ersatz atheism, and not at all the real, proud thing itself.
Posted by trailing wife 2005-10-13 23:07||   2005-10-13 23:07|| Front Page Top

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