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2005-11-10 Europe

France: The worst appears to be over but tensions still high

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Posted by ed 2005-11-10 06:52|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 or worse the injury or death of a rioter

oooooh. I get it. The police are there to protect the rioters - God forbid one get hurt! Silly me, I would have thought they were there to protect the good citizens of Paris....but nothing bad will happen if something bad happens to them.

Posted by 2b 2005-11-10 07:37|| 2005-11-10 07:37|| Front Page Top

#2 for now.

Posted by Gleper Gleash9968 2005-11-10 08:43|| 2005-11-10 08:43|| Front Page Top

#3 Now the extortion begins.

Posted by Greregum Phomong6307 2005-11-10 09:24|| 2005-11-10 09:24|| Front Page Top

#4 2b : you might like to read the summary of two police unionists intervention in a conservative talk show, posted in the Opinion 4th page.

Posted by anonymous5089 2005-11-10 09:32|| 2005-11-10 09:32|| Front Page Top

#5 Wait for post Friday's sermon.

Posted by gromgoru 2005-11-10 11:00|| 2005-11-10 11:00|| Front Page Top

#6 "coupled with a carrot-and-stick initiative."

They just don't get it.

Posted by DepotGuy 2005-11-10 11:16|| 2005-11-10 11:16|| Front Page Top

#7 Sarkozy is deporting over 100 of the foreign national Cicada per a news reoprt this AM. Some are even legal residents.

Posted by BigEd 2005-11-10 12:06|| 2005-11-10 12:06|| Front Page Top

#8 "...with the promise of more help for the impoverished suburbs..."
So let me get this straight; to respond to these thugs burning and causing all of this trouble, they are being promised more help? Dealing with terrorists has always been a bad idea.
They should have to prove themselves worthy before any deals or promises are made.
Crazy times

Posted by Jan 2005-11-10 12:34|| 2005-11-10 12:34|| Front Page Top

#9 Why does this who "French Suburbs" thingy... remind me of a favorite movie:
Desperado

staring:
Antonio Banderas .... El Mariachi
Salma Hayek .... Carolina
Joaquim de Almeida .... Bucho
Cheech Marin .... Short Bartender
Steve Buscemi .... Buscemi
Carlos GÃ³mez .... Right Hand (as Carlos Gomez)
Quentin Tarantino .... Pick-Up Guy
Tito Larriva .... Tavo
Angel Aviles .... Zamira
Danny Trejo .... Navajas
Abraham Verduzco .... NiÃ±o
Carlos Gallardo .... Campa
Albert Michel Jr. .... Quino
David Alvarado .... Buddy
Angela Lanza .... Tourist Girl

Posted by 3dc 2005-11-10 12:44|| 2005-11-10 12:44|| Front Page Top

#10 France: The worst appears to be over

If these morons think that this was "the worst" of things, it only goes to show just how short-sighted and politically unimaginative they are.

The recent festivities are merely a taste of what's to come. They are the direct result of an insular socialist culture's attempt to obtain the benefits of pluralism without doing any of the heavy lifing involved with integration, social cohesion and realignment of societal structure.

France cannot have it both ways. They think it is possible to retain an eliteist and colonialist attitude towards outsiders yet do not realize that those same immigrants might (by choice or per force) adopt a similarly colonial attitude with respect to their participation in French society.

The result is damaging stratification and development of a dangerous subculture, complete with an alternate economy and entirely seperate ~~religious~~ political vision for France's exceptionally gloomy future.

With its constant meddling and incessant contradiction of American interests, France has bred up a monster which it may well prove unable to contain. If this demon's rampage were delimited to within Fance's own borders, it would be a fitting and ironic reward for their willingness to countenance terrorism and moral bankrupts like Khomeini and Arafat.

Sadly, this is not the case. The furies unleashed by French political and societal ineptitude now pose a serious threat to all of Europe and their lack of timely action to contain this ravening beast merely reflects their own inbred disregard for all things not French.

Posted by Zenster 2005-11-10 15:14|| 2005-11-10 15:14|| Front Page Top

#11 I agree that the lull is just a brief suspension. Clearly, the rioters won, hands down, so they retain the initiative. For most effect, they should concentrate on something equally noteworthy as cars.

They might try a text-message based concentration to do something like destroy a shopping area. Several hundred converge on a Rodeo Drive-like street, then destroy every shop there in just a few minutes. Tens of millions of dollars of destruction caused by fifty kids with gasoline bombs.

A convergeance of that sort could attack their stock exchange to worldwide attention. They might take it to a less defended target like an industrial site--creating a huge disaster.

Posted by Anonymoose 2005-11-10 15:48|| 2005-11-10 15:48|| Front Page Top

#12 The rioter/victims can't bring this above simmer for now, too dangerous. Keep torching the cars, burn the occasional building, keep the pressure on, but not enough to bring out the army.

BTW I wonder how many parking meters are still intact?

Posted by Shipman 2005-11-10 15:58|| 2005-11-10 15:58|| Front Page Top

#13 However tensions remained high, and there was acute awareness that a mishandled situation -- or worse the injury or death of a rioter -- could easily plunge the high-immigration 'banlieues' back into the abyss.

They've identified the solution, but unfortunately failed in the key results analysis. France is simply postponing its doom.

Posted by Besoeker 2005-11-10 15:58|| 2005-11-10 15:58|| Front Page Top

#14 How do we know the worst is over when the MSM admits that they are censoring the news?

http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,14173,1639538,00.html

Mr Dassier said his own channel, which is owned by the private broadcaster TF1, recently decided not to show footage of burning cars.

âPolitics in France is heading to the right and I donât want rightwing politicians back in second, or even first place because we showed burning cars on television,â Mr Dassier told an audience of broadcasters at the News Xchange conference in Amsterdam today.

Posted by AlanC">AlanC 2005-11-10 16:37|| 2005-11-10 16:37|| Front Page Top

#15 May is the best time for this sort of thing. Weather's nice, unions will walk out on stirke. Country could be paralyzed. As long as it's all wrapped up in time for the August vacation, no one will care.

Posted by Cherenter Glaitch1123 2005-11-10 17:44|| 2005-11-10 17:44|| Front Page Top

#16 coupled with a carrot-and-stick initiative combining emergency police powers with the promise of more help for the impoverished suburbs --

Actually, they were waving carrots around for a long while. They started waving something looking like a stick several days ago, and NOW they're seeing results...

Posted by Ptah">Ptah 2005-11-10 17:56|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2005-11-10 17:56|| Front Page Top

#17 I wonder if they'll have any of these car-burning, shop-burning, school-burning, gymnasium-burning, church-burning Islamoboys do any kind community service to pay for all that destruction. Nah . . . it might "offend" them, and how could they ever enforce it?

P.S. Nice answer Zenster.

Posted by ex-lib 2005-11-10 23:44|| 2005-11-10 23:44|| Front Page Top

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