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2005-11-23 China-Japan-Koreas

East Asia allies doubt U.S. could win war with China

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Posted by Glavimble Glaish7143 2005-11-23 06:39|| || Front Page|| [11128 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Does anyone doubt this is a result of the Donks treason?

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2005-11-23 07:31|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-11-23 07:31|| Front Page Top

#2 And the assessment is that the Chinese would win?

What happens when the key economic engine disappears? What happens when millions go unemployed in an urban environment with raising expectations? And those jobs shift to alternate countries which are not antagonistic to that world class economic engine and unlikely to return?

The observations seem to exclude several hundred years of Chinese history and internal tensions.

Posted by Thomock Clamble2028 2005-11-23 08:47|| 2005-11-23 08:47|| Front Page Top

#3 Mr. Ishihara said U.S. ground forces, with the exception of the Marines, are "extremely incompetent" and would be unable to stem a Chinese conventional attack.

Somebody want to check his sushi?

Posted by tu3031 2005-11-23 09:05|| 2005-11-23 09:05|| Front Page Top

#4 Some of the Dem comments don't help. But the administration has been able to conduct this war exactly as it chose - the Dems haven't been able to block or influence a bit of the policy, and for the most part were too frightened to try. To the extent the "we can't control parts of Anbar" type statements are valid, it's fair comment on our capabilities as demonstrated on the ground. The coverage can be blamed on the Dems and their ilk, but not the policy or performance.

Posted by Unereting Uloluque4083 2005-11-23 09:39|| 2005-11-23 09:39|| Front Page Top

#5 Define "win"...

Posted by mojo">mojo 2005-11-23 10:25|| 2005-11-23 10:25|| Front Page Top

#6 "extremely incompetent"

Um...you might want to ask the Republican guard how incompetent the army is. Also, after the 1st Cav, 3rd ARC, 24th Inf. smash through your lines ask the Chinese again how incompetent the Army is, and the Air Force after they blow all your planes out of the sky, and the Navy, after they sink all your ships.

Morons...

Posted by mmurray821 2005-11-23 11:31|| 2005-11-23 11:31|| Front Page Top

#7 This is our politically correct ideas on warfighting coming home to roost. Istead of laying waste to our enemies, as we are obviously capable of doing, they sit around in a big Washington circle jerk and worry about killing "innocents" and "torture", instead of winning the damn thing.

Immediately after 9/11, Afganistan, Iraq, Iran, and Syria should have been destroyed. Instead, we go about pussyfooting around hoping it will make someone like us, instead of fear us.

Why should we lower ourselves to fight on the terms of our enemies. We invested trillions of dollars in an arsenal that, while ghastly, is supposed to protect us from attack. It turns out that due to our lack of testicular fortitude, it was money wasted.

Posted by Texican">Texican 2005-11-23 11:44|| 2005-11-23 11:44|| Front Page Top

#8 You missed a cliff or two, Texican. But please, keep jumping.

Posted by .com 2005-11-23 11:51|| 2005-11-23 11:51|| Front Page Top

#9 Just point me in the right direction .com, I'm in a jumping mood today.

While I'm at it, bombing Al-Jizzera is a good idea too!!

Posted by Texican">Texican 2005-11-23 11:54|| 2005-11-23 11:54|| Front Page Top

#10 I share some of the implied sentiments, believe me, but this isn't a comic book - it's the real world. It is my take that this has nothing to do with testicular fortitude - the clash of civilizations will ramp up naturally, the IslamoNutz will insist I suspect, and the responses will be commensurate as long as we do have a President with stones*. Further, under that presumption, I suspect there will come a tipping point when people have had enough - and more drastic measure will be employed.

If we have a President who can't stomach the fight for the survival of freedom, then all bets are off, of course.

* No that's not a sexist statement but simply using the vernacular in line with the original comment.

Posted by .com 2005-11-23 12:14|| 2005-11-23 12:14|| Front Page Top

#11 Governor Ishihara is known for being controversial. He also won't go much higher than the office he's in.

Posted by Pappy 2005-11-23 12:22|| 2005-11-23 12:22|| Front Page Top

#12 "I believe America cannot win as it has a civic society that must adhere to the value of respecting lives"

Underestimating our ruthlessness due to the current media circus that is the war on terror. The minority that is the moonbat brigade within America is actually just that, a minority.

He should be able to look at his own history to see what America is capable of when their backs are against the wall.

Posted by Evil Elvis 2005-11-23 13:47|| 2005-11-23 13:47|| Front Page Top

#13 The Gub'ner's a second-rate button pusher at best.

Posted by MunkarKat 2005-11-23 15:13|| 2005-11-23 15:13|| Front Page Top

#14 I hope the Chinese believe this.

Posted by Mahou Sensei Negi-bozu 2005-11-23 15:28|| 2005-11-23 15:28|| Front Page Top

#15 why couldn't we win because they are good at having military parades?

Posted by Jerelet Thineling2988 2005-11-23 16:02|| 2005-11-23 16:02|| Front Page Top

#16 When the ball goes up, Chineses ports will be in a stranglehold blockade and all US debts will be invalidated (payback for 1949 confiscations x 1000). No exports, imports, or the money to pay for them makes takes the shine off the Chinese "miracle".

Posted by ed 2005-11-23 16:09|| 2005-11-23 16:09|| Front Page Top

#17 Ishihara isn't "controversial". He's a "nationalist" gaijin-hating certified wackjob. This is roughly equivalent to that Arab press article from yesterday pushing David Duke as a representative voice of American politics. Especially considering that the article only quotes Ishihara directly, while claiming that other allies are stating this sort of thing privately.

Who is Insight Magazine? Some sort of new venture by the Moonies at the Washington Times?

Posted by Mitch H.">Mitch H. 2005-11-23 16:57|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/]">[http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/] 2005-11-23 16:57|| Front Page Top

#18 A Nationalist Red Ken of Japan, huh?

Posted by .com 2005-11-23 17:03|| 2005-11-23 17:03|| Front Page Top

#19 China's 3 Gorges Dam is the #1 glass house on the planet. Recognizing that, any war would mean the end of southern china in the time it takes the flood to rage to the sea.

Posted by 3dc 2005-11-23 18:00|| 2005-11-23 18:00|| Front Page Top

#20 uh oh - here comes a missive from the Flyash Liberation Army....

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-11-23 18:11|| 2005-11-23 18:11|| Front Page Top

#21 Whoa doods, just back from a peek at a certain Turkish installation, the brothers are ready to rumble and crumble ifn you catch my drift. Drift! Yes! A little horizontal motion lotion is a relief to all concern. Now Brother Frank, don't fear the Fly Ash, it is your friend. But in all things proportions.

Posted by Fly Ash Liberation Army 2005-11-23 18:52|| 2005-11-23 18:52|| Front Page Top

#22 Ishihara isn't "controversial". He's a "nationalist" gaijin-hating certified wackjob.

And to the Japanese, that's 'contraversial'.

I met Mr. Ishihara (briefly) at a social function once some years back. Let's just say the meeting was not a pleasant one and a mild embarassment to our host.

Posted by Pappy 2005-11-23 21:02|| 2005-11-23 21:02|| Front Page Top

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