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2005-12-01 Iraq

Surprise! Peace group blames us for kidnapping.

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Posted by Fred 2005-12-01 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I personally think its the Christian Peacemaker Teams fault for sending their representatives there in the first place .. Not like its a lovely place for hardline Christians to go anyway .Bunch of well meaning muppets if you ask me .

Posted by Craigum Gleamp6732 2005-12-01 00:12|| 2005-12-01 00:12|| Front Page Top

#2 They have a good chance of being released:

A top Palestinian Muslim cleric also issued an appeal for the captives' freedom on Wednesday, saying three of them had spent time in the West Bank helping Palestinians. The Palestinian group International Solidarity Movement said in a news release issued Wednesday that the activists had protested against the construction of Israel's security wall, harvested olives and helped Palestinian children get through Israeli army checkpoints. "They subjected themselves to grave dangers when they stood in front of Israeli bulldozers," Shawkat Samha, the mayor of the West Bank village of Jayyus, said in the release. Source.

Posted by Rafael 2005-12-01 02:04|| 2005-12-01 02:04|| Front Page Top

#3 Christian "Peacemaker" Teams. Yet they clearly decided to take a side. Hypocrites.

Posted by Rafael 2005-12-01 02:08|| 2005-12-01 02:08|| Front Page Top

#4 You know the RINO = CINO DemoLefties - they wanted Dubya and the USA to obey a UNO and World Community whom lawfully/legally authorized said illegal attack. They want the American Federal-level of Govt and only the Amer Fed to take over abd have Regul oversight over anything and everything, anyone and everyone, aka "progressing forward", unto Marxism and Socialism for the safety and security and protection of all Americans, so that they can then cut back and take away both civil and natural rights in the name of permanent anti-deficit deficit budget accounting. They want the Amer Fed to payout the $$$$ and make everyone rich in order to ultimately make us poor, i.e. "progress forward" in order to "regress backward"!? WW2 = Civil War, the USN wilfully sank its own Battleship USS ARIZONA, killing 1100 of its own men; and "...Americans are oppressed [ = impressed] with the progress [ = defeat???] in Iraq...".

Posted by JosephMendiola 2005-12-01 04:06|| 2005-12-01 04:06|| Front Page Top

#5 I read the following this morning, and realized it was quite appropriate for this situation:

Proverbs 1:20-33:

Wisdom cries out in the street; in the squares she raises her voice. At the busiest corner she cries out; at the entrance of the city gates she speaks: "How long, O simple ones, will you love being simple? How long will scoffers delight in their scoffing and fools hate knowledge? Give heed to my reproof; I will pour out my thoughts to you; I will make my words known to you. Because I have called and you refused, have stretched out my hand and no one heeded, and because you have ignored all my counsel and would have none of my reproof, I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when panic strikes you, when panic strikes you like a storm, and your calamity comes like a whirlwind, when distress and anguish come upon you. Then they will call upon me, but I will not answer; they will seek me diligently, but will not find me. Because they hated knowledge and did not choose the fear of the Lord, would have none of my counsel, and despised all my reproof, therefore they shall eat the fruit of their way and be sated with their own devices. For waywardness kills the simple, and the complacency of fools destroys them; but those who listen to me will be secure and will live at ease, without dread of disaster."

Posted by Ptah">Ptah 2005-12-01 07:59|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2005-12-01 07:59|| Front Page Top

#6 Christian Peacemaker Team! F*ck yeah!
Comin' alive to save the motherf*ckin day, yeah!

Posted by BH 2005-12-01 09:30|| 2005-12-01 09:30|| Front Page Top

#7 Also relevant, from King Solomon:

To man belong the plans of the heart,
but from the LORD comes the reply of the tongue.
All a man's ways seem innocent to him,
but motives are weighed by the LORD.
Commit to the LORD whatever you do,
and your plans will succeed.
The Lord works out everything for his own ends--even the wicked for a day of disaster.
The LORD detests all the proud of heart.
Be sure of this: they will not go unpunished.

Proverbs 16:1-5

LORD in capitals is the word for I AM, seldom written out by the Jews and awkwardly transliterated "Jehovah" by Roman christians.

"Commit your plans to the LORD and they will succeed" does not mean "I make a plan and commit it to God and he'll accept it." It means truly seek the Lord before you make a plan.

Jesus had a few things to say to people who claimed his name for dubious projects:

Not everyone who says to me, "Lord, Lord" wil enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, "Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and drive out demons and perform many miracles? I will tell them plainly, "I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers."

THese points work both ways. We would be wise not to rush to judgement in favor or against anybody who claims to be acting on God's word. We would also be wise to make sure that when we point out bad logic we do it kindly.

Posted by mom">mom 2005-12-01 10:07|| http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com]">[http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com] 2005-12-01 10:07|| Front Page Top

#8 Keep em.

Posted by Cyber Sarge">Cyber Sarge 2005-12-01 10:40|| 2005-12-01 10:40|| Front Page Top

#9 Rafael's post suggests the likely scenario: after an 'appeal' to the 'Wise Elders' of Islam, the captives are released with a statement showing that all must submit to Islamic judgement, but that suitably dhimmi'd ones may be granted leniency which they don't deserve ... so long as they turn on those who oppose Islam.

Posted by lotp 2005-12-01 12:34|| 2005-12-01 12:34|| Front Page Top

#10 I've seen some Christian 'Peacemaker' Teams down around where I live too. They usually carried tools that had 'Colt' engraved on them though.

Ima thinkin there may be some trademark or copyright infingement going on.

Posted by psychohillbilly 2005-12-01 12:35|| 2005-12-01 12:35|| Front Page Top

#11 I think you nailed it, lopt!

Posted by 2b 2005-12-01 12:39|| 2005-12-01 12:39|| Front Page Top

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