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2005-12-21 Bangladesh
Bangla: Ahmadiyyas fear for their lives
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Posted by Fred 2005-12-21 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Is this a Moose limb thing or a caste thing? This being PakiWakiBanglastan and all, I s'pose it's a hybrid of the worst features of both.
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2005-12-21 00:20||   2005-12-21 00:20|| Front Page Top

#2 It's a Muslim thing, as the Ahmadiyya's do not accept one of the main tenets of Islam, that Muhammad was the final Prophet; as well as rejecting Jihad of the Sword.

Minorities who don't fight back make a very convenient target when you are whipping up the faithful.

It's a similar situation to the Bahai's of Iran.
Posted by Paul Moloney 2005-12-21 01:24||   2005-12-21 01:24|| Front Page Top

#3 Thanks Paul. I now see that Islam is a religion of peace as long as you embrace jihad of the sword.
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2005-12-21 08:09||   2005-12-21 08:09|| Front Page Top

#4 The hysterical flap over the passport religion column last year was so no Ahmadis could sneak into Mecca, being non-Muslims and all.

! So now I get it. I thought it was all about the purity of the land of the pure and keeping lesser people of the book out.
Posted by Buckminster Spemble1220 2005-12-21 09:12||   2005-12-21 09:12|| Front Page Top

#5 The Mecca thing is a big theological thingie. The Ismailis are also a rather large group not welcome in Soddiland and they end up going to a shrine in Egypt.

There are a half dozen or so sects of Islam, all relatively small, that don't get permission to worship at the black rock unless they disguise themselves.



Posted by mhw 2005-12-21 09:56||   2005-12-21 09:56|| Front Page Top

#6 The ironic thing is, those groups most supportive of the Pakistan movement are those that felt the sword arm of the Pak state.

The Aga Khan backed partition of the Indian subcontinent but now Ismailis are only safe in India itself, their mosques are attacked in Pak and Bangla.

The campaign for Pakistan was strong in East Bengal and the Bengali muslims suffered the most - 3 million dead and tens of thousands raped bybthe Pak army in 1971.

The Ahmadis were also backers of Jinnah. Their reward was being outlawed in Pak and soon Bangla.

Perversely, the Deobandis and Jamaat Islami called the idea of Pakistan - "the work of the devil" and did not support it. These are now in the forefront of the islamization campaign, seeking to purify the land they did not originally support.

Their pogroms have reduced the Sikh and Hindu populations to almost nothing, the Ahmadis are next, then the Ismailis.

The biggest cleaning will be the Shia.
Musharraf himself allededly participated (as a junior officer) in anti-shia pogroms ordered by General Zia ul Haq.
During the Karil war, Pak artillery rained down on the Shia villages in Indian Kashmir.

Once the Shia are gone, the non-conformist Sunni will be arabicized the wahabi-deobandi way.

Posted by john 2005-12-21 10:36||   2005-12-21 10:36|| Front Page Top

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