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2006-05-23 Home Front: Culture Wars

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Posted by tipper 2006-05-23 09:55|| || Front Page|| [11136 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Pat sees everything through lenses of traditional American isolationism. He has never seen any purpose at all in "international engagement", other than the Monroe Doctrine, and then just to keep strong foreign powers out of "our" hemisphere.

Other than that, foreigners can stay in their countries, and the US should be content to stay in ours. And never the two should meet. Especially if it involves sending US troops across our borders to somewhere else, for some "unwanted entanglement" overseas.

In any event, Pat ignores the obvious extrapolation from his theory. That being, if it is true, then Red State America and Blue State America should break apart into two nations.

Our cultural divide is as great as many others that have divided, and as Pat argued, history together doesn't act as a glue anymore. He does mention the sand fleas of racial divide, but they have been around, and laughable, for many years.

If Mississippi was made a separate nation, even like an Indian Reservation, but for African-Americans, as was proposed by some of their self-appointed "leaders", in past, how many African-Americans would want to live there?

Unless it was a parasitical regime, feeding off of the rest of the nation, it is obvious to most that it would soon devolve into a much more civilized version of Zimbabwe.

Very few respectable and successful African-Americans would be so foolish as to embrace such a fools errand, except those who would follow the public fools who proclaim themselves "leaders".

He is mistaken about organizations like MS-13 becoming nationalist. Historically, it is backwards. Nationalist movements, such as the Mafia, Camorra, Zionism, etc., first are created for a nationalistic purpose before then becoming criminal organizations (in the latter case, referring to the Stern gang, et al.)

Organizations that begin as criminal enterprises almost never become nationalistic, because it is bad for "business".

Finally, Pat made no mention of the collapse of much of organized religion in the world, followed by the re-emergence of primitive cults and early religions. His own beloved Protestantism is as fragile as many nation-states, with respect to both other religions and primitivistic superstition.

All told, things change. It may or may not forbode some sea-change in the world, but it will find its own balance point.

Posted by Anonymoose 2006-05-23 12:41|| 2006-05-23 12:41|| Front Page Top

#2 Pat's other problem is that he's a blood-and-soil nationalist, and he views this country like a blood-and-soil nationalist. The United States is not, and essentially never has been, a blood-and-soil ethnic state.

Let me illustrate: I'm not ethnically Japanese. I could learn to speak flawless Japanese, develop a strong preference for tea and cherry blossoms and teriyaki and rice, study Japanese customs, memorize all 30,000 kanji, move to Tokyo, become a naturalized Japanese citizen, and I'd still be a gaijin. On the other hand, a Japanese person who adopts American ideals can move here, become naturalized, and be just as American as me.

"But where are we going?" I asked.

"We are going to America," my father said.

"Why America?" I prodded.

"Because, son. We were born Americans, but in the wrong place," he replied.

Peter W. Schramm, "Born American, but in the Wrong Place."

Posted by Mike 2006-05-23 12:58|| 2006-05-23 12:58|| Front Page Top

#3 "Because, son. We were born Americans, but in the wrong place,"

That's been true of just about every non-refugee immigrant I've known.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-05-23 13:46|| 2006-05-23 13:46|| Front Page Top

#4 Finally, Pat made no mention of the collapse of much of organized religion ... his own beloved Protestantism ..."

Pat is quite Irish Catholic.

Posted by Craiger Groluth7886 2006-05-23 13:53|| 2006-05-23 13:53|| Front Page Top

#5 I like Buchanan, I was offered a copy of "the death of the West", I browsed it, and I think I'll like it. True, the b&s nationalism is more european than american.

Posted by anonymous5089 2006-05-23 14:07|| 2006-05-23 14:07|| Front Page Top

#6 I like Buchanan as well. My point of view of the whole situation is not as doom and gloom as his but I think he makes some good points.

Posted by Broadhead6 2006-05-23 14:30|| 2006-05-23 14:30|| Front Page Top

#7 Thanks for the link to Professor Schramm's article. Wow.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2006-05-23 16:45|| 2006-05-23 16:45|| Front Page Top

#8 That is a wonderful article. Thanks, Mike.

Posted by Matt 2006-05-23 20:07|| 2006-05-23 20:07|| Front Page Top

#9 STEVE FORBES > INDIA cannot progress or survive if it continues to promote and protect the autonomous or near-sovereign ethnic-specific or faith-specific Cantonization/Enclavization of its various ethnic groups, i.e. autonomous or Regulatory-independent, stratified State(s) within a State, Culture(s) within a Culture, Faith(s) within a Faith, etc - what the US-Western Lefts likes to disguise under the feel-good but despotic labels of DIVERSITY and alleged TOLERANCE.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-05-23 23:19|| 2006-05-23 23:19|| Front Page Top

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