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2006-06-08 Home Front: WoT
Khomeini said it all in 1942
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Posted by DanNY 2006-06-08 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Would that this were delivered, in full without edits or cleansing, above the fold of every newspaper and leading every news broadcast.
Posted by flyover 2006-06-08 00:16||   2006-06-08 00:16|| Front Page Top

#2 Mebbe he means "Jihad" as a literary metaphor for blowing kisses? Mebbe?
Posted by borgboy 2006-06-08 10:48||   2006-06-08 10:48|| Front Page Top

#3 One must again remember to thank the French government and people for keeping this old heathen on ice in Paris until he recieved the call...I remember the full page ads he and his ilk published in U.S. leading newspapers announcing their agenda from gay Paree...
Posted by borgboy 2006-06-08 10:51||   2006-06-08 10:51|| Front Page Top

#4 The French: they turn the Jews over to the Nazis, and give support to monsters like this. About says it all, doesn't it?
Posted by borgboy 2006-06-08 10:52||   2006-06-08 10:52|| Front Page Top

#5 Not to further bash in my compatriots (or rather, the "arab street" at the quay d'Orsay), but the french Elite is also the force which saved the mufti al husseini from being hanged after WWII, sheltered and protected him, all this in the name of the never-ending struggle against the english fiends.
Posted by anonymous5089 2006-06-08 10:59||   2006-06-08 10:59|| Front Page Top

#6 The French: they turn the Jews over to the Nazis
To channel JFM, they turned Jews over to the nazis much less than in most other occupied cointries, either Holland or Poland, or any given esatern Europe one. Criticize them for what they do (and there is a lot to criticize, really), not for clichés.
Posted by anonymous5089 2006-06-08 11:01||   2006-06-08 11:01|| Front Page Top

#7 Yeah, those Danes certain were up to shipping them out [to Sweden not Belsen].
Posted by Gravitch Flurt9338 2006-06-08 11:07||   2006-06-08 11:07|| Front Page Top

#8 RE anon #6: VICHY voluntarily passed harsh antisemitic laws, far beyond what the Nazis demanded. French "police" rounded up children for extermination, when the Nazis authorities demanded "only" adults. These are not cliches...these are proven statements showing bloody hands. (Additionally it is ridiculous to compare France to Poland: the former proclaimed itself the home of liberty and equality - Poland never had now wanted such lofty aspirations and was run by a dictastorship prior to WW 2...)
Posted by borgboy 2006-06-08 11:30||   2006-06-08 11:30|| Front Page Top

#9 I'm well aware of that, I'm not denying France collaborated, I'm just saying that french people are not jew haters by nature.
Posted by anonymous5089 2006-06-08 13:43||   2006-06-08 13:43|| Front Page Top

#10 Sounds to me like it's a fight to the death. Which is fine with me, we got bigger bombs.
Posted by Charles 2006-06-08 14:41||   2006-06-08 14:41|| Front Page Top

#11 Borgboy

There were a lot of them in most East-Europe outside Hungary and Serbia. In France there were none. Oh, there were bastards between the politicians and high ranking civil servants and policemen who obeyed iniquitous orders but the population didn't go in Jew hunting. In fact in many places like Montauban Jews lived openly between the population without them being turned but also without the cops moving a finger to arrest that Mr Bernstein who had a shop just in front of the police station.

You see there is what Laval told the Germans (perhaps trying to soften the very harsh armistice conditions), then what he effectively ordered to the ministers, then what the ministers ordered to their staff and so on until the base cop who drags his feet or the peasant who even if he doesn't hide Jews decides not to warn the authorities about those he has seen.

At the end of the day Jews had a much higher rate of survival in France than anywhere else outside Italy or Denmark. But Italy is speial case (an ally so the Germans could not do what they wanted) and Denmark, due to a juridical fiction, was considered to never having never been at war with Germany and its authorities had a lot more leeway thn the French authorities while German occupation forces kept a much lower profile. Compounded to that Danish held a much higher position in the Nazi racial scale than the French. Note that I am not sayong that the French would have worn yellow stars as the Danish did.
Posted by JFM">JFM  2006-06-08 14:52||   2006-06-08 14:52|| Front Page Top

#12 Try 1786 and the report Adams and Jefferson gave to Congress after their meeting w/the Tripoli ambassador.

National Review has it somewhere.
Posted by anonymous2u 2006-06-08 15:31||   2006-06-08 15:31|| Front Page Top

#13 JFM: Thank you and anon. for your insights. For the record, one eastern european country did a relatively commendable job in not caving in to Nazi judeophobia: the axis ally Bulgaria. Much of the Holocaust depended on local indifference to the welfare of the Jews: the miniscule size of the Einzatzgruppen in relation to their death tolll is phenomenal...I am sure how everyone has recently read of the plans to send an Einzatzgruppen from Athens to Palestine after a Rommel mideast triumph, one can imagine that Arab collaborators would have lined up for blocks to shoot Jews in the killing pits...
Posted by borgboy 2006-06-08 16:32||   2006-06-08 16:32|| Front Page Top

#14 one can imagine that Arab collaborators would have lined up for blocks to shoot Jews in the killing pits...

Borgboy ("You'll be assimilated!"), cf. that frontpage article, plus the various palestinian pogroms under british mandate. There would have been massive participation, you're certainly right.
Posted by anonymous5089 2006-06-08 17:10||   2006-06-08 17:10|| Front Page Top

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