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2006-06-14 Home Front: WoT

US 'neglects mental health of Guantanamo inmates'

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Posted by tu3031 2006-06-14 15:32|| || Front Page|| [7 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Can't lose what you never had - Muddy Waters

Posted by Thrurong Jaise7291 2006-06-14 16:08|| 2006-06-14 16:08|| Front Page Top

#2 Take away the Giddeon Korans and their mental health will improve over time. Of course, that's just a waste of time...Muddy Waters said it best.

Posted by Inspector Clueso 2006-06-14 16:17|| 2006-06-14 16:17|| Front Page Top

#3 on closing gitmo

the majority of the guys there seem to be taliban/aq footsoldiers-cannon fodder or alleged cannon fodder whom we swept up in 2001/2002. At worst, we let them go, they end up as part of the daily statistics of dead Taliban in Helmand province, or dead in work accidents in Saudi. Maybe taking a few innocent Saudis with them. All in all, probably less harm to us free, than they are to the momentum of the WOT sitting in Gitmo, slowly martyring themselves, making headlines that play against us. At this point freeing em, though an injustice, would be the better part of discretion, I think.

OTOH there ARE some high value detainees we can neither release nor try. (mainly held elsewhere than Gitmo, IIUC) So the real question is, would giving up the Gitmo cannon fodder strengthen or weaken the public case for holding the high value detainees? No one has really addressed that, cause the left is unwilling to accecpt the need and right to hold folks indefinitely without trial, and the right is unwilling to contemplate that releasing the cannon fodder en masse is a reasonable strategy.

Posted by liberalhawk 2006-06-14 16:23|| 2006-06-14 16:23|| Front Page Top

#4 That's because after we squeeze 'em dry of intel, we plan on taking them out and shooting their unlawful combatant asses. So, y'know, it's all good.

Posted by mojo">mojo 2006-06-14 17:17|| 2006-06-14 17:17|| Front Page Top

#5 Bill Goodman, legal director of the Centre for Constitutional Rights (CCR), said:"The Bush administration has systematically and deliberately denied these men their most basic rights through a policy of choking off all contact, communication, information and hope.[It has] consistently fought to keep these men from lawyers, doctors and others who were willing to help them."

Yes Bill, thats kinda the idear. The ones we can't capture, we kill on the spot. "Denial" of life, as it were. You must have been born post-9/11.

Posted by Besoeker 2006-06-14 17:20|| 2006-06-14 17:20|| Front Page Top

#6 Ya'all think some Thorzine might help them?
Esp with that nasty feces throwing thingy?

Posted by 3dc 2006-06-14 17:20|| 2006-06-14 17:20|| Front Page Top

#7 Put them all on suicide watch. If any of 'em go to commit suicide, just stand there and watch.

Posted by Mike 2006-06-14 17:26|| 2006-06-14 17:26|| Front Page Top

#8 Just because I don't care, doesn't mean I don't understand.

Posted by Homer Simpson 2006-06-14 17:32|| 2006-06-14 17:32|| Front Page Top

#9 To quote Michelle Malkin: Boo Freakin Hoo!

Posted by CrazyFool 2006-06-14 17:35|| 2006-06-14 17:35|| Front Page Top

#10 LH, it's a fair point -- there are indeed some 'cannon fodder' types at Gitmo. They have limited intel value, but there's one overriding problem -- they want to kill 'Merkins. It's all well and good to say, release them and wait for them to get snuffed in Helmund. But if they get very lucky and kill a coalition soldier five seconds before they get sent to paradise, what do you say to the widow/mother of that soldier?

I don't claim to have all the answers, and I do agree that ridding ourselves of the low-value detainees would help solve some other problems. But damned if I want to see any of them get lucky against us.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2006-06-14 18:23|| 2006-06-14 18:23|| Front Page Top

#11 Those three knew they were being sent home to soddy land, they chose suicide rather than face the justice of their countrymen.

Leaving the world no poorer three men died.

Posted by pihkalbadger 2006-06-14 18:25|| 2006-06-14 18:25|| Front Page Top

#12 Why we shouldn't release them

"Another of his sons, Mourad Benchellali, was one of seven French detainees held at the US base at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba. Released in July 2004, Mourad now faces terrorist-related charges in France along with five others."

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2006-06-14 18:48|| 2006-06-14 18:48|| Front Page Top

#13 I would release them. But they would have to hear first a document that would state that they have been injected with an implant that would monitor certain chemicals in their bodies, that is is known that when killing someone (or just before that act), certain chemicals are released and these would be detected and the implant would kill them.

Just read and out of the gate, no communication with the inmates allowed.

I bet that 90% of them would be very conscious of that possibility, some may try but would die just of the fright.

(If I were evil, I'd implant a post-hypnotic suggestion resulting in that specific effect).

Posted by zazz 2006-06-14 19:13|| 2006-06-14 19:13|| Front Page Top

#14 "One man, Jumah al-Dossari, has tried to take his life 12 times."
Good grief -- give him rope and an illustrated manual on knots!

Posted by Darrell 2006-06-14 19:57|| 2006-06-14 19:57|| Front Page Top

#15 too complicated Zazz. Kill them. They legally deserve it

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-06-14 20:17|| 2006-06-14 20:17|| Front Page Top

#16 One man, Jumah al-Dossari, has tried to take his life 12 times.

Sort of like the Kamikaze pilot who flew 37 missions.

Posted by Matt 2006-06-14 20:25|| 2006-06-14 20:25|| Front Page Top

#17 Guantanamo - a waste of perfectly good shark bait.

Posted by 3dc 2006-06-14 21:07|| 2006-06-14 21:07|| Front Page Top

#18 GLAZE CHICKEN + CHRISTINA = USAF F15 or F22 or F35 > too much tech to handle, D *** it, ergo gotta crash like any good Indian Air Force pilot.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-06-14 22:15|| 2006-06-14 22:15|| Front Page Top

#19 Give 'em all some of what Joe's got. That'll cure 'em!

Posted by BA 2006-06-14 23:14|| 2006-06-14 23:14|| Front Page Top

#20 I want to help. I'm willing to take some vacation, go to Guantanamo, and make fun of their wee wees and toothpaste felching habits.

Posted by ed 2006-06-14 23:32|| 2006-06-14 23:32|| Front Page Top

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