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2006-06-21 Home Front: Politix
Smell The Desperation: Donks To Push Cut 'N Run In Senate, Now
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Posted by Ulusing Cleash5738 2006-06-21 05:37|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 This treason can stand. When is enough, enough? How can anyone who says they support the troops or they support the WoT remain a Democrat?

The MSM is a tool in total thrall of the socialist/neo-communist wing of the Demopcrat party. No lie is to great and to sedition to evil for them to pass off as fact. The Democrat Politicians even worse.

I curse you all Democrats and hope the wrath of Hell consumes each one of you treason loving, back stabbimg haters of all that is decent and right.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2006-06-21 07:10||   2006-06-21 07:10|| Front Page Top

#2 When Fox News came to this story last night, I yelled at the lovely and charming Mrs. Bobby to turn it off; I was sick and tired of the dimmidem horse hockey.

Posturing is more important to them than soldiers lives. How low can one get?
Posted by Bobby 2006-06-21 07:13||   2006-06-21 07:13|| Front Page Top

#3 Shorter Democrats: "We are in serious danger of actually winning. We must hurry up and get out before that happens."
Posted by eLarson 2006-06-21 07:16|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com]  2006-06-21 07:16|| Front Page Top

#4 "Mr. Kerry and Mr. Feingold -- potential presidential candidates in 2008 -- sent a joint e-mail to Mr. Kerry's 2004 campaign supporters saying that withdrawal will lead to a more effective war on terror."

Good God Almighty. I can't even begin to comprehend the level of stupidity it would take to make a statement like that.

More than anything else we could possibly do, setting a "timetable" for "strategic redeployment" and walking out on the Iraqis would convince our jihadi enemy that Osama bin Laden was absolutely right about us: America is weak, soft, foolish, effete and corrupt, and simply DOES NOT have the stomach anymore for a long fight because it doesn't even believe in the rightness of its own cause. Bleed America enough-- and Lord knows, it doesn't take much**-- and we will eventually talk ourselves into giving up and leaving.

And it isn't just the Islamofascists who will be convinced of our weakness: China is watching. So is Iran. And North Korea. And Russia. They, too, are drawing conclusions about the lack of American steadfastness on extravegant display in the Democratic Party.

And someday, they are likely to act on those conclusions.

** Just for perspective, the number of American casualties in Iraq so far, after more than three years there, is roughly the same as just three weeks worth of U.S. highway fatalities-- or of six average days during World War II.

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D.  2006-06-21 07:40||   2006-06-21 07:40|| Front Page Top

#5 "i don't need a gun -- i've got a DONK"
Posted by rich 2006-06-21 07:42||   2006-06-21 07:42|| Front Page Top

#6 Algeria was a prime exmaple of what happens when you send noises that you could be leaving soon. The FLN who for a time had set bombs in Algiers at leisure and massacred entire (mostly native) villages was on the ropes after the anti-terrorist operations of the paras. And then De Gaulle came and began making noises about conceeding independence or more exactly about handling power to the FLN?

Guess what happenned? Inforùmants who no longer informed, neutral or friendly populations turning to FLN because quite simply, they had to ingratiate with eth FLN before the French left or face unspeakable deaths (boiled alive or quartered were common place after independaence).

And that is what will happen in Irak once you set a fixed time table.
Posted by JFM">JFM  2006-06-21 08:50||   2006-06-21 08:50|| Front Page Top

#7 The are just following the lesson of Vietnam. It is never too late to lose a war.
Posted by phil_b">phil_b  2006-06-21 08:58|| http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/]">[http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/]  2006-06-21 08:58|| Front Page Top

#8 The Reps don't have the guts to now play the card given to them. That the cowards are responsible for the continuing deaths of innocent civilians, Coalition and American soldiers cause the enemy having lost the battle is desperately hoping that in another month, six months, a year, the Democrats will gain enough power to give them the victory they can not achieve otherwise. So they continue the violence for another day of media coverage. The Democrats have literally become an instrument of the enemy. Their words and actions means more will die. If the Democrats had presented a united front as the Republicans had done during WWII, the enemy would have already quit the fight. Each utterance, each media posturing event encourages the enemy to keep killing and killing and killing, with the hope that victory is but one more betrayal away.
Posted by Cravish Grolunter8216 2006-06-21 08:59||   2006-06-21 08:59|| Front Page Top

#9 The dim-witted Dems don't mind living with camel dung boots (or Nikes) on their necks for the next several hundred years. What a bunch of f*cking losers-literally!
Posted by P*ssed 2006-06-21 09:00||   2006-06-21 09:00|| Front Page Top

#10 The donks are just a symptom of what is happening in Europe. Mass surrender and apathy. Leave us alone and we will give you what you want. Very Chamberlin.
I think these people fell asleep during history class, or were taking "multi-cultural" studies.
What a pathetic waste of oxygen these folk are.
Posted by DarthVader 2006-06-21 09:11||   2006-06-21 09:11|| Front Page Top

#11 These people have to remember that we are currently holding most of them under indictment currently. To screw this war up could gaurantee them some consequences they did not expect.
Posted by newc">newc  2006-06-21 09:29||   2006-06-21 09:29|| Front Page Top

#12 Benedict Arnold???? Well, he was kind of principled, so maybe not.

Or just the Hammer & Sickle?

Or J. Pollard, Ames or Hanssen?
Posted by anonymous2u 2006-06-21 10:48||   2006-06-21 10:48|| Front Page Top

#13 You just got to wonder which 19 Senators think it’s a good idea to release bad guys that killed our troops in Iraq. I bet the vote on their resolution in something like 75-25.
Posted by Cyber Sarge 2006-06-21 11:06||   2006-06-21 11:06|| Front Page Top

#14 NAYs 19


Allard (R-CO)
Bond (R-MO)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Cornyn (R-TX)
DeMint (R-SC)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Hagel (R-NE)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lott (R-MS)
McCain (R-AZ)
Sessions (R-AL)
Stevens (R-AK)
Thomas (R-WY)
Warner (R-VA)

Interesting group. I'd like to find some of the debate, if any, to understand why. I suspect it has to do with BS preening by the donks to limit the flexibility of the Iraqi government in wartime. Lincoln, Grant and Sherman let a lot of traitors off the hook after the civil war and the nation was better for it.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-06-21 11:25||   2006-06-21 11:25|| Front Page Top

#15 The Democrat lawmakers are calling for 'redeployment' because much of their base wants to quit Iraq, and quit now.
Posted by Pappy 2006-06-21 11:26||   2006-06-21 11:26|| Front Page Top

#16 They want to redeploy to New Orleans Nawlins to help fight crime. Recently, we have captured documents which infer that the 'insurgents' are despirate, and are running out of time. Since then, we have killed and captured another thousand 'insurgents'. And, rumor has it, we have a high ranking al Qaeda who is talking. So, we continue to roll the carpet, while the democrat party belittles itself publicly. What's not to like ?
Also, WMDs may be burried under man made ponds in Iraq. We have known this, but none of the ponds have been drained for excavation yet. This process will commence shortly, I think.
Posted by wxjames 2006-06-21 11:54||   2006-06-21 11:54|| Front Page Top

#17 "The Democrat lawmakers are calling for 'redeployment' because much of their base wants to quit Iraq, and quit now."

Which brings up the core problem the Democrats have right now: their base sucks.

Around the time Operation Iraqi Freedom began-- actually, even before that, during the run-up to the 2002 mid-term elections-- the Democratic Party began pandering to the Kos/DU/Moveon.org crowd in a cynical bid to tap into the large reserves of money and passion on the political Left.

They made a conscious choice to take a ride on that tiger, and now they can't get off even if they wanted to-- which many of them don't, having gotten accustomed to the ride.

Four years ago, only a few of the Democratic politicos would ever utter the kinds of inane, defeatist lunacy we see now. But today it's standard fare for the entire Party; so much so, that Hillary Clinton may not succeed in getting the 2008 Democratic nomination because of her comparatively pro-WoT position, and Joe Lieberman-- a true-blue liberal-- seems on the brink of being drummed out of the Party by the DNC Chairman and his Connecticut counterpart, at the urging of the Kossacks et al.

So that's the problem for the Democratic Party right now: a shitty base.

And I think we've only barely begun-- God help us all-- to glimpse the full depth of their insanity.

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D.  2006-06-21 12:47||   2006-06-21 12:47|| Front Page Top

#18 #14 NS: Yes, I think you have it right. Here's Senator Stevens, who voted against:

"I wonder seriously about what the
Senator from Florida is doing by telling
this new fledgling democracy that
they cannot go through the process of
cleansing, go through the process of
trying to get people who were misguided,
who were part of coalitions
that they now are willing to recant, if
they are, to come forward and support
this new democracy. What are we doing
anyway on the floor of the Senate trying
to tell the new democracy what
they can and can’t do? I didn’t like
that story when I read it in the paper
this morning, but I was happy to see
the new statement from the security
people that clarified what they intend
to do.
But the time will come, if that democracy
is going to succeed, when they
are going to have to fold into their population
those who are willing now to
give up terrorism, those who are willing
to put aside the activities of the
past which led them to attack Americans
as well as any other—there are 34
other nations over there. Are we saying
just those who did kill Americans, they
can’t get amnesty, but the rest of them
can?
What are we doing on the floor of the
Senate trying to debate an issue as to
how this country is going to come back
together again? I am sort of appalled at
it, really. I don’t know if anyone else
is. But it seems to me that we ought to
do everything we can to encourage
them to bring their people together, to
forget the sins of the past, to forget the
terrorists of the past, and to pledge
themselves to a new future of democracy
and have people come forward and
say: I am willing to support this new
democracy. And if they do, and demonstrate
that they do after a period of
time, shouldn’t they be recognized as
being loyal citizens of the new democracy?
This is a debate that disturbs me. It
disturbs me to think we are willing to
just seize the moment and make a political
point—seize the moment and
make a point—and not think. It is time
we started thinking about how we can
assure and take steps to help this country
survive as a democracy. If it becomes
a democracy in that part of the
world, it will be a marvelous success,
and I think it will lead to greater consideration
by other countries of liberalization
of their concepts and giving the
people more power.
I believe we ought to try to find some
way to encourage that country, to
demonstrate to those people who have
been opposed to what we are trying to
do, that it is worthwhile for them and
their children to come forward and support
this democracy. And if that is amnesty,
I am for it, I would be for it. And
if those people who come forward and
want to obtain a better life for their
families in the future are willing to
support that democracy—if they bear
arms against our people, what is the
difference between those people who
bore arms against the Union in the War
Between the States? What is the difference
between the Germans and the
Japanese and all the people we have
forgiven?
When I left the war and came home,
I had a deep hatred for the Japanese.
Today, Mr. President, I have a granddaughter
who is Japanese. I have a
daughter-in-law who is Japanese. And
her parents were involved in World War
II. Now, are we to understand that time
can heal, heal the pain of the past?
I really wish the Senator from Florida
would have the courage to withdraw
the amendment, just withdraw it
and say it was a political effort. This is
nothing but politics. I will vote to
table it or vote against it in good conscience."

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Posted by KBK 2006-06-21 13:17||   2006-06-21 13:17|| Front Page Top

#19 said Sen. Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, the Democratic whip.

Heh...caught a spelliing error. It should read: Democratic whimp.
Posted by 2b 2006-06-21 16:17||   2006-06-21 16:17|| Front Page Top

#20 Mr. James

Also, WMDs may be burried under man made ponds in Iraq. We have known this, but none of the ponds have been drained for excavation yet. This process will commence shortly, I think.

Huh?
Posted by 6 2006-06-21 16:25||   2006-06-21 16:25|| Front Page Top

#21 I wondered about that as well. It's the first I've heard of it. Of course that means little.
Posted by RJB in JC MO 2006-06-21 19:49||   2006-06-21 19:49|| Front Page Top

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