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2006-09-05 Britain
Times Online: Afghan Quagmire Looms
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Posted by Clereng Glomolet2652 2006-09-05 06:48|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Article: Public support may also be shaken by the row about whether British troops are overstretched and underequipped. That is a constant grumbling backdrop to any engagement, but is taking on new political heat. General Richard Dannatt, the new chief of general staff, has been quoted round the world for his comment: “Can we cope? I pause. I say, ‘Just’.”

There was a time when British military commanders were stoical. It is clear that we have seen the end of that era.
Posted by Zhang Fei 2006-09-05 08:32|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2006-09-05 08:32|| Front Page Top

#2 with echoes of Vietnam — is that the totals are always far greater than the numbers of Nato or Afghan forces killed

But don't forget that, years later, Vietnam admitted their total military losses were pretty much what the US had claimed.
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2006-09-05 09:17||   2006-09-05 09:17|| Front Page Top

#3 So according to the MSM:

Body count stories of our enemies = BAD
Body count stories of our troops = GOOD

Posted by Oldcat 2006-09-05 11:27||   2006-09-05 11:27|| Front Page Top

#4 Like you said Glenmore...interviews with Giap and other top NVA types have shown we kicked their collective a**es and killed somewhere between 1.1 and 1.5 million NVA/VC. Thanks to Johnson and McNamara, and the MSM (Walter Cronkite, you treasonous b**tard), politics and insane ROEs led to our failure to win.

Again in Afghanistan we are killing a whole generation of islamo-fascist males while only losing a handful of coalition forces....and the MSM paints it as Vietnam redux.
Posted by anymouse">anymouse  2006-09-05 14:13||   2006-09-05 14:13|| Front Page Top

#5 Nah, they probably trumped up the numbers to agree with our tally, so we'd look more like mass murders, or they could get more 'compensation'.

Heavens, I can be cynical at times!
Posted by Bobby 2006-09-05 14:18||   2006-09-05 14:18|| Front Page Top

#6 Nope, our body counts in VietNam were pretty damned close to the reality. Of course, the fact that we could grind up 3 full NVA infantry divisions during a battle like the siege of Da Nang with ARCLIGHT strikes certainly helped.
Posted by Shieldwolf 2006-09-05 20:30||   2006-09-05 20:30|| Front Page Top

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