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2006-11-26 Caribbean-Latin America

Coup d'État In Venezuela: Made In The USA

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Posted by Steve White 2006-11-26 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Interesting .. er .. article.

Posted by gorb 2006-11-26 01:03|| 2006-11-26 01:03|| Front Page Top

#2 Chavez has foreign allies. Exactly what is wrong with the Venezuelan opposition having their own allies?

Posted by Sneaze Shaiting3550 2006-11-26 05:16|| 2006-11-26 05:16|| Front Page Top

#3 Ain't gonna happen Hugo got the place wired for sound.

Posted by Shipman 2006-11-26 07:41|| 2006-11-26 07:41|| Front Page Top

#4 We could do this except for one thing. The republican central and South American cabal that has bungled things up in that region since the time of Nixon.

It is a closed fraternity of Jesse Helms-style foreign policy reactionaries who have kept out any non-members from their ranks. Which wouldn't be bad <strong>if they knew what they were doing.</strong>

But they don't. They horribly bungle things up and will only support the most right wing dictator-types in the region. In Venezuela alone that have already supported half a dozen *botched* coup attempts. Real boy scout quality operations that were just embarassing. Compromised from the start by the pitiful Venezuelan intelligence service.

Out of an otherwise fine, even brilliant republican foreign policy staff, this group stands out like a cancre sore of incompetence. Almost every success the US has had in the region has either been done directly by the president without even consulting them, or has been an "end-around" them.

Posted by Anonymoose 2006-11-26 08:47|| 2006-11-26 08:47|| Front Page Top

#5
Uh huh, that or maybe the US doesn't control South America. Any chance of that?

Wop wop wop wop wop wop

Posted by Shipman 2006-11-26 09:09|| 2006-11-26 09:09|| Front Page Top

#6 Foreign policy rarely means control. But it is supposed to mean that you are at least aware of what is going on in a country, who is doing what to whom and why, what the public supports, how their government works, and especially who are the "bad guys".

You can't just look at central and South America and make a blanket statement, "Let's only support the 'right wing'", because what they call the 'right wing' down there has almost nothing in common with what they call 'right wing' in the US.

Yet at the same time, their socialists and communists are pretty much the same. But this doesn't mean that their opponents are necessarily democrats, either.

Socialists and communists only get a foothold down there when the government, often just a dictator, is rotten to the core. The way you *stop* such leftists is by helping the people down there get good, democratic governments.

You don't do it by supporting some "El Supremo" who you like for the sole reason that he kills commies. We did that during the Cold War, because the commies were Soviet clients, but no more.

And finally, if you *have* to overthrow some twit like Chavez, you get pros to do it, not some dumbasses led by an Oliver North-style Colonel who conspire with the same hopeless cases whose rule *caused* Chavez in the first place.

You recognize that Venezuela has real problems that brought about Chavez, and until they are alleviated, there will be an endless supply of Chavez's to take his place.

And *this* is what you try to make your foreign policy do.

Posted by Anonymoose 2006-11-26 17:02|| 2006-11-26 17:02|| Front Page Top

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