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2007-01-24 India-Pakistan

Church in Muslim institution not un-Islamic: PHC

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Posted by Fred 2007-01-24 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Yeah, temporary as it may be...

Posted by newc">newc 2007-01-24 03:00|| 2007-01-24 03:00|| Front Page Top

#2 The university authorities decision to allow Christians to reconstruct their place of worship inside the campus would give rise to an unending series of demands by other minorities for the same purpose,

I wonder what gives Islamists ideas like this. Maybe because it's what they'd do?

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2007-01-24 05:23|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2007-01-24 05:23|| Front Page Top

#3 Does Peshawar University have a bookstore?

Or is it like Punjab University that has no bookstore but three mosques?

Posted by john 2007-01-24 06:17|| 2007-01-24 06:17|| Front Page Top

#4 Reforming Our Universities by Pervez Hoodbhoy

Pakistan has almost a hundred universities now. Not one of them is world class. Truth be told, not even one of them is a real university, if by a university one means a community of scholars engaged in free inquiry and the creation of knowledge.

The teaching at QAU is no better. Rote learning is common, students are not encouraged to ask questions in class, and courses are rarely completed by the end of the semester. This university has three mosques but no bookstore. It is becoming more like a madressah in other ways too.

All student unions are gone, and ideological disputes have evaporated into the thin air. Instead of left vs right politics there is simple tribalism. Now Punjabi students gang together against Pakhtoon students, Muhajirs versus Sindhis, Shias versus Sunnis, etc.

Some campuses are run by gangs of hoodlums and harbour known criminals, while others have Rangers with machine guns on continuous patrol. On occasion, student wolf packs attack each other with sticks, stones, pistols, and automatic weapons. There are many campus murders.

Most students have not learned how to think; they cannot speak or write any language well, rarely read newspapers, and cannot formulate a coherent argument or manage any significant creative expression.

Dumbed down, this generation of Pakistanis is intellectually handicapped. Like overgrown children, students of my university now kill time by making colourful birthday posters for friends, do "istikhara" (fortune telling), and wander aimlessly in Islamabad's bazaars.

Posted by john 2007-01-24 06:20|| 2007-01-24 06:20|| Front Page Top

#5 Right, let them rebuild the church. But kill any muslims that try to convert.

Very progressive.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2007-01-24 07:26|| 2007-01-24 07:26|| Front Page Top

#6 You can bet there will be a fatwa in milliseconds. Islamic law says it clearly: it is not allowed to build or enlarge non-muslim religious edifices and it limits what repairs can be carried on existing ones (I am not sure they are even allowed).

You can bet that the usual suspects wil be asking for the head of the judge.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2007-01-24 08:44|| 2007-01-24 08:44|| Front Page Top

#7 john: Truth be told, not even one of them is a real university, if by a university one means a community of scholars engaged in free inquiry and the creation of knowledge.

By this standard I have never taught at a real university either. The lock-step Forest Gump version of Marxism prevents free enquiry, let alone scholarship, in any arts or social department I have ever set foot in.

Posted by Excalibur 2007-01-24 09:31|| 2007-01-24 09:31|| Front Page Top

#8 True, excal. But, thought reigns in (some) business schools and typically in engineering schools and agriculture schools.

Of course, I weep for this judge. His head'll be on a platter ASAP after this ruling.

Posted by BA 2007-01-24 09:45|| 2007-01-24 09:45|| Front Page Top

#9 By this standard I have never taught at a real university either

Pervez Hoodbhoy is a physicist (a mediocre one but the best that Pakistan has today) and his expectations are colored by the hard science training.

Posted by john 2007-01-24 15:51|| 2007-01-24 15:51|| Front Page Top

#10 This isn't going to square well with koran 2-193: Fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief) and religion is only for Allah.

Bombs being assembled this minute.

Posted by ed 2007-01-24 15:58|| 2007-01-24 15:58|| Front Page Top

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