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2007-03-16 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Steve White 2007-03-16 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 NEWSMAX > Iran's FM Lanjani > IRAN WILL STRIKE BACK MILITARILY - any way, any body, any where, + of course everywhere, etc. - iff US attacks it to stop its uranium enrichment program. IOW, IRAN GETS ITS WAY OR ITS WAR.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-03-16 00:42|| 2007-03-16 00:42|| Front Page Top

#2 McCain didnt even bother to show up.

McCain, get that fork outta your mouth and stick it - you're DONE.

Posted by OldSpook 2007-03-16 01:28|| 2007-03-16 01:28|| Front Page Top

#3 Example No. 1,231 of Idiotic Memes The Administration Hasn't Lifted a Pinky to Debunk: "policing a civil war". Any war, or tussle, or rumble, or rowdy frat party, that we deem in our interests to police, suppress, settle, squash, tilt, or otherwise resolve, WE SHOULD DO SO. Duh.

Our enemies now wear western civilian clothes and go to strip clubs and take flying lessons and are polite to airline ground staff - they don't wear uniforms and attack us in armored vehicles or fly flags over fixed defensive positions. So our actions and interventions won't look like WWII, either.

WTF was Kosovo? Civil war. Bosnia? What did the idiot Dems say - back when such incredibly stupid things still took one's breath away - just after months of the most preposterous hand-wringing and alarmism about how we dare not take on Saddam in Kuwait, as our offensive operations had just ground to a halt? OH! Rush in, save the Shi'a and Kurds, STOP THE CIVIL WAR!

Admit I don't have the stomach to peruse the Record, but is there a single senator with the brains and presence of mind to jump on this "civil war" nonsense (not that there are elements of such in Iraq, but that it's in any way pertinent) and talk sense?

Posted by Verlaine 2007-03-16 02:09|| 2007-03-16 02:09|| Front Page Top

#4 There's also LUCIANNE > NYT article > NEW FACE OF JIHAD > fatah AL-Islam vows attacks on USA. Group claims Amers won't leave unless know lives + Amer economy is directly threatened.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-03-16 02:25|| 2007-03-16 02:25|| Front Page Top

#5 As an Oregonian who actualy voted for Smith I can only hang my head in shame, what a complete jackass, to put it mildly. I would vote for the local dog catcher to replace him if possible!

Posted by DaveS 2007-03-16 02:27|| 2007-03-16 02:27|| Front Page Top

#6 McCain didnt even bother to show up.

Wants it both ways -- doesn't want the funds cut off, wants to preserve his attractiveness to the "independents" and "centrists".

Posted by occasional observer 2007-03-16 06:35|| 2007-03-16 06:35|| Front Page Top

#7 Senate Democrats promptly said they would try again to force a change in Bush's policy beginning next week when they begin work on legislation providing money for the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. The usual suspects? Or new traitors?

Posted by JohnQC 2007-03-16 08:30|| 2007-03-16 08:30|| Front Page Top

#8 The interesting thing to me is that this is intentional ankle biting. NPR reported several days ago that the House Democrats knew this bill wouldn't get through, but they put it to a vote anyway "to send a message." The message I'm getting is that they can't pass the legislation they really, really want... but possibly I'm not reading deeply enough.

Posted by trailing wife 2007-03-16 08:55|| 2007-03-16 08:55|| Front Page Top

#9 Why should McCain show up for a symbolic measure, with no legal meaning?

Besides hes pals with Lieberman, he probably knew how the vote was going to go.

I mean cmon, at the firefighters union meeting the other day, McCain walked in and talked about the war, why we had to win, etc, etc, despite his audience silence. I dont think any other candidate, Dem OR Repub, was as forthright.

McCain has gambled his future on the war, in a way no one else, not Romney or Giuliani or Gingrich, let alone Hilary, has. To knock him for being soft cause he didnt show up for this vote, is well ......

Posted by liberalhawk 2007-03-16 09:08|| 2007-03-16 09:08|| Front Page Top

#10 McCain wants to run as a republican, but be elected by democrats.

There is something wrong with that man's wiring.

Posted by Anonymoose 2007-03-16 09:53|| 2007-03-16 09:53|| Front Page Top

#11 McCain wants to run as a republican, but be elected by democrats.

PoliSci 101.

Posted by ed 2007-03-16 09:55|| 2007-03-16 09:55|| Front Page Top

#12 I'm with Liberalhawk on this one. I'm not a huge fan of McCain, but nobody in the Senate has been better about what's at stake in this war (except, perhaps, Lieberman).

Posted by Tibor 2007-03-16 10:23|| http://incompetenttibor.blogspot.com]">[http://incompetenttibor.blogspot.com] 2007-03-16 10:23|| Front Page Top

#13 Why should McCain show up for a symbolic measure, with no legal meaning?

Perhaps to show he has convictions or principles that he is willing to stand behind.

Posted by Vespasian Chanter5758 2007-03-16 11:10|| 2007-03-16 11:10|| Front Page Top

#14 I must respectfully disagree with LH: yes, it was a symbolic measure.

That's exactly why you show up. The other side is trying to send a message, so you send one in return.

Yes, the Senator has stood for the war and does stand for the troops. But he has to do that in the big ways, on the Senate floor, as well as at the firefighters union hall. This was a vote for 'all hands'. The Senator needed to be there. That's my opinion, anyways.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2007-03-16 11:28|| 2007-03-16 11:28|| Front Page Top

#15 There is something wrong with that man's wiring.

Jeeez, 'moosey, when you're right, you're right.

Imathinkmccainiscrazy

Posted by Shipman 2007-03-16 12:37|| 2007-03-16 12:37|| Front Page Top

#16 13

hes allegedlly flipped on abortion, fundies, etc. I dont think theres any question of his flipping on the war.

Posted by liberalhawk 2007-03-16 13:01|| 2007-03-16 13:01|| Front Page Top

#17 "The vote was 50-48 against the measure, 12 short of the 60 needed for passage."

Gosh, golly gee Harrynot even a majority. But I did find your A vote for the Gregg Amendment is vote not change conditions at Walter Reed statement humorous. (The same way Im always ammused when little kids eat worms)

Posted by DepotGuy 2007-03-16 14:11|| 2007-03-16 14:11|| Front Page Top

#18 Joe Wrote IOW, IRAN GETS ITS WAY OR ITS WAR.

How about this, Iran Doesn't get it's way, and there's still war, short, nasty and final, after it's over if Iran Dares to even Squeak, there's another short, nasty war, repeat until Iran Doesn't dare squeak, or preferably is unable to Squeak,

Posted by Redneck Jim 2007-03-16 16:20|| 2007-03-16 16:20|| Front Page Top

#19 hes allegedlly flipped on abortion, fundies, etc. I dont think theres any question of his flipping on the war.

Your point is unclear. Is he a defender of the war or a slimey flip-flopper.

While we expect politicians to be slimey, McCain was previously a POW who understands the meaning of support the troops. If he can't find his convictions on this issue, then he is no different than Hillary; The only thing important to either of them is their own personal ambition. Everything and anything else can be damned. A see a jock pilot out of control.

Posted by Vespasian Chanter5758 2007-03-16 16:27|| 2007-03-16 16:27|| Front Page Top

#20 I hear 'ya VC5758, you do realize that Hillary is but a prisoner of love.

Posted by Shipman 2007-03-16 19:14|| 2007-03-16 19:14|| Front Page Top

#21 Donna Shalala?

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-03-16 20:05|| 2007-03-16 20:05|| Front Page Top

#22 *urp* - I think I just threw up a little bit in my throat there....thx

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-03-16 20:13|| 2007-03-16 20:13|| Front Page Top

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