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2007-07-05 Africa Subsaharan
'Allowing more genocide isn't an option'
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Posted by Fred 2007-07-05 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ]  Top

#1 I'm sorry the people in Darfur are up to their asses in alligators, but we are trying to drain the swamp with zero help at home or abroad.

It sucks to be Sudanese.
Posted by badanov 2007-07-05 00:11|| http://www.freefirezone.org]">[http://www.freefirezone.org]  2007-07-05 00:11|| Front Page Top

#2 Genocide happened "not just in Darfur. It happened in Asia; it happened in Europe; it happened in Africa. And it can happen in America."

How far does she want the West to go to stop a genocide? "Sometimes military intervention is a necessity, sometimes economic sanctions are enough. The most important thing is that genocide as a crime ends."


And how shall we stop those who are unutterably fixated upon religious extermination of the Jews? Does wiping them out to the last believer count as genocide?
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-07-05 00:16||   2007-07-05 00:16|| Front Page Top

#3 Good question Zenster. More like "self-preservation".
Posted by mcsegeek1 2007-07-05 01:36||   2007-07-05 01:36|| Front Page Top

#4 And how shall we stop those who are unutterably fixated upon religious extermination of the Jews? Does wiping them out to the last believer count as genocide?

If threatened, then better them than us.
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2007-07-05 11:06||   2007-07-05 11:06|| Front Page Top

#5 More like "self-preservation".

If threatened, then better them than us.


This is the corker and so very few people seem to get it. Extermination of the Jews—however horrible—is but a small facet of the genocide planned by Islam. Imagine the death tolls arising from establishment of a global caliphate:

1.) Extermination of all Jews:
Some 13.5 MILLION people, world-wide would most likely die at the hands of their Muslim oppressors.

2.) Extermination of all homosexuals
I'm going to use what is called a "wildly exaggerated figure" for the sake of including the bisexual and transgender community plus other deviants who would all be put to death. Thusly, some 10% of the world's population, or 600 MILLION people would fall into this category. The remaining figures that follow are much more difficult to quantify.

3.) Armed resistance to Muslim encroachment:
I think it's safe to say that nearly everyone here at Rantburg would perish fighting a Muslim attempt to overrun America. World wide, the numbers would most likely exceed that of the Jews. We'll place it at a meager 100 MILLION.

4.) Women denied access to medical care:
This is a huge number because under Islamic law women would only be able to be seen by female doctors—an exceedingly small fraction of this world's medical practitioners. I’ll use the figure for global female cancer deaths as an example of how reduced early intervention will escalate avoidable deaths, especially among women. That figure will be more than 3 MILLION per year.

5.) Execution of political prisoners:
Toss in another 10 MILLION.

6.) Execution of those who refuse to convert:
I’m going to use the world’s population of Catholics as a figure representing those who would adamantly refuse to convert or cooperate and be put to death. While the number would likely be much higher, this figure alone would approach over 1 BILLION.

We now have a total of 1.726 BILLION people who would die within the first year of Islam establishing its global caliphate. Millions more would die each year due to Islam’s heavy-handed shari’a law and its frequent demand for capital punishment. Women would keep dying in droves due to the unavailability of female doctors. Emerging homosexuals would be killed as with many other deviants, be they political, religious or otherwise.

Do the math. Those six categories above represent a small fraction of the actual death toll that global shari'a law would find worthy of execution. Shari'a has so many offenses meriting death that my own estimates are hopelessly conservative.

The global caliphate would rise upon dead bodies numbering greater than this world’s entire Muslim population.

My Iranian friend Ray agrees with me that the number who would perish would be closer to HALF this world’s population but that is far more speculative than the conservative numbers I’ve posted above.

So, the question remains:

HOW MUCH LONGER ARE WE TO PUT UP WITH AN IDEOLOGY WHOSE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO BRING ABOUT THE DEATH OF MORE PEOPLE THAN ITS OWN FOLLOWERS?

I’ve stated before that if Muslims cannot abandon their quest for a global caliphate, then I would just as soon see all of them perish rather than the larger numbers who would ultimately die by Islam’s brutal hand. The numbers—approximate as they might be—do not lie.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-07-05 14:35||   2007-07-05 14:35|| Front Page Top

#6 We should have divided Sudan into North/South long ago. It would ahve sent a strong message to the blacks in subsahara africa that we won't sit and let them be slaughtered and a strong message to the Arabs that we'll divide their nations if they don't act civilized.

Darfur would never have happened if Sudan really feared for their territorial integrity.
Posted by rjschwarz 2007-07-05 17:01||   2007-07-05 17:01|| Front Page Top

#7 Note on my previous post... I meant that better to wipe out the Islamists than be slaughtered. After re-reading my post it sounded like I would let the Jews die rather than us.

Anyway, good thoughts Zenster. Don't forget all the stoning and executions that would take place for infractions of the law. Along with all the mutilations.
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2007-07-05 17:04||   2007-07-05 17:04|| Front Page Top

#8 Zenster, very useful big picture calculations. I've saved them for review when I forget the building blocks of the big picture.
Posted by trailing wife 2007-07-05 20:32||   2007-07-05 20:32|| Front Page Top

#9 I'll just add that the last groups to kill far beyond their own number of followers were the Nazis and Soviet communists. They now occupy history's dustbin. So should Islam and for all of the same reasons.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-07-05 20:45||   2007-07-05 20:45|| Front Page Top

#10 Zenster, what about the Khmer Rouge?

And do you really think there are no Muslim homosexuals? Think again. Most western homosexuals would just go into the caliphate's "closet" to survive.

A billion refusing to convert? I'm not that optimistic. I believe my church has about seven thousand "members", but it only seats about 500 and only holds four masses each weekend. And there are empty seats.
Posted by Darrell 2007-07-05 21:08||   2007-07-05 21:08|| Front Page Top

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