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2007-09-27 Home Front: Politix
Dem Plan: Use Taxes to Fight Climate Change
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Posted by Dave D. 2007-09-27 07:14|| || Front Page|| [3 views ]  Top

#1 Being from metro Detroit, Dingell may be proposing these things as a way of protesting the plans to raise CAFE and other burdens on the Big 3. He has done that before.

That said, has there been any serious discussion on the benefits of not fighting climate change, but adapting to it? There will be winners and losers. I imagine that the northern states will see less severe winters. I can get behind that.
Posted by Formerly Dan 2007-09-27 07:55||   2007-09-27 07:55|| Front Page Top

#2 PLEASE.

The Climate will change whatever humans do.

Computer climate models are neo-soothsayers.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2007-09-27 08:03||   2007-09-27 08:03|| Front Page Top

#3 I assume this tax would not be imposed on jet fuel.
Posted by Excalibur 2007-09-27 08:07||   2007-09-27 08:07|| Front Page Top

#4 Dhimocrat solution to everything. More taxes and more government control.

You like big brother. You want to please big brother. You will obey big brother.
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2007-09-27 08:09||   2007-09-27 08:09|| Front Page Top

#5 Yes, on jet fuel too: "A 50-cent-a-gallon tax on gasoline and jet fuel, phased in over five years, on top of existing taxes."
Posted by Dave D.">Dave D.  2007-09-27 08:26||   2007-09-27 08:26|| Front Page Top

#6 I assume this tax would not be imposed on jet fuel.

Naturally. Instead it'll be an "environmental charge" imposed on airline tickets. That way the private jets can fly at will, while the rest of us will have to pony up an extra $100 a flight. It'll also be spun as "punishing the airlines" for their "obscene profits".

Can't let the peasants get above their stations.

Hell, I'm surprised they have come up with a way to link certain fabrics (or dyes) to "climate change", in order to reinstate sumptuary laws.
Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford  2007-09-27 08:27|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2007-09-27 08:27|| Front Page Top

#7 I assume this tax would not be imposed on jet fuel.

My guess is that you would get a tax break if you buy Carbon Credits from yourself and then pay yourself a huge salary.
Posted by CrazyFool 2007-09-27 08:31||   2007-09-27 08:31|| Front Page Top

#8 It really doesn't matter what governments tax to raise revenues. What matters is how much tax they raise and what they spend it on.

I'd be in favour of a carbon tax paired with an equal reduction in income tax, even though I think global warming's a crock.

Problem is they will raise additional revenue and spend it on some pointless subsidy for solar energy or similar.
Posted by phil_b 2007-09-27 08:41||   2007-09-27 08:41|| Front Page Top

#9 "Problem is they will raise additional revenue and spend it on some pointless subsidy for solar energy or similar."

No, it will probably go into "Light Rail" or "Bike Trails" or some other insipid 'flavor of the day'.
Posted by Mullah Richard 2007-09-27 09:03||   2007-09-27 09:03|| Front Page Top

#10 That said, has there been any serious discussion on the benefits of not fighting climate change, but adapting to it?

Paging Mr. Darwin. Mr. Darwin. White courtesy phone.

or in the immortal words of Gunnery Sgt. Tom Highway, "You improvise. You adapt. You overcome."
Posted by Procopius2k 2007-09-27 09:27||   2007-09-27 09:27|| Front Page Top

#11 The Democrat answer to everything is to TAX it.
Posted by JohnQC 2007-09-27 10:21||   2007-09-27 10:21|| Front Page Top

#12 Hell, I'm surprised they have come up with a way to link certain fabrics (or dyes) to "climate change", in order to reinstate sumptuary laws

Give them time.They already came up with "fur is murder", after all.
Posted by charger 2007-09-27 11:06||   2007-09-27 11:06|| Front Page Top

#13 phil_b, if they raise taxes, the only thging they'll spend it on is their own re-election. The whole point of democrats with money is to syphon off a percent or two for their own personal use. After all, they are the party of corruption.
Posted by wxjames 2007-09-27 11:12||   2007-09-27 11:12|| Front Page Top

#14 "And the Senate is considering a market-based system that would set an economy-wide ceiling on the amount of carbon dioxide that would be allowed to be released."

Translation: Some egghead is trying to explain the “system” to Babs Boxer in simple sound bytes so she can pretend to understand.
Posted by DepotGuy 2007-09-27 11:12||   2007-09-27 11:12|| Front Page Top

#15 Many years ago a singing group known as the Temptations had a really good song which contained the line....


"...and politicians say that more taxes will solve everything!!............And the band played on"


Any questions?
Posted by AlanC 2007-09-27 12:32||   2007-09-27 12:32|| Front Page Top

#16 "they are the party of corruption"

wx - I disagree. The Dumbs have no monopoly on corruption. Pretty much anybody in that cesspool gets corrupted, sooner or later. Power corrupts - and they all have plenty of power over us.
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2007-09-27 16:45||   2007-09-27 16:45|| Front Page Top

#17 Ima hate thisn early dark shit. I got a pretty good idea that EDS is caused by bad time making. Hell, in most of the world things are getting better, I blame Bush and the US Naval Opserveraitory.
Posted by HalfEmpty 2007-09-27 19:50||   2007-09-27 19:50|| Front Page Top

#18 As said long ago, OWG-SWO > inevitably bring up the topic of REGIONAL-GLOBAL TAXATION ISSUES to support said OWG > BIG- OR HYPER-GOVT PARTY/RULING ELITES WILL HAVE MATERIALISM, EVERYONE ELSE WILL RIDE CAMELS + KITES, ETC. *TURN OF THE 20th CENTURY > "D *** NG IT, BOYZ, GET A HOSS [Horse]"! Explains the weirdo designs of future generations.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-09-27 19:57||   2007-09-27 19:57|| Front Page Top

#19 Dem Plan: Use Taxes to Fight Climate Change bankrupt the average American while raking in more dough to get themselves reelected over and over again

There - fixed.
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