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2007-10-31 Europe

Spain braced for verdicts in 3/11 train bombings

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Posted by Steve White 2007-10-31 00:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 As far as we know, there's no great secrets, no intel links, no sources compromised by the trial, and the defendants are stone cold guilty.

You know bad. Read some of my posts on the subject.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2007-10-31 03:28|| 2007-10-31 03:28|| Front Page Top

#2 Basically, there is not a sxingle one of the pieces of evidence who led t to the pre-election arrests (the ones who turned the result) who doesn't appear to have been planted, And for the post-election aarrests while somle of them were definitely islamists and up to no good the fact is that the link to the 3/11 bombings appears tenuous at best.

Did I mention that the trains were taken apart just two days after the bombings and that thus key evidence was destroyed.? Did I mention that we still don't know what explosives were used becvause no analmysis was made and that the explosive clearing experts who inspected them clzaim that it could no have been the low-velocity Goma-2 (the explosive used according to official thesis) but should have been military grade explosive (but we will never know since there was no analysis and evidence has been destroyed).

Posted by JFM">JFM 2007-10-31 05:34|| 2007-10-31 05:34|| Front Page Top

#3 Acquit my followers! Or prepare for carbecues in abundance.

Posted by MoHamHead">MoHamHead 2007-10-31 07:07|| 2007-10-31 07:07|| Front Page Top

#4 The accused leader of the gang has been acquitted.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2007-10-31 07:39|| 2007-10-31 07:39|| Front Page Top

#5 After this, does anyone seriously believe that "law enforcement" is the way to fight terrorism?

Posted by Spot">Spot 2007-10-31 07:52|| 2007-10-31 07:52|| Front Page Top

#6 I haven't followed this case all that closely, but JFM has, and he seems to think the story is not what it appears. It appears the authorities have been mis-investigating with intent, rather than just incompetence. Why would they? Who benefits? Are they just afraid to convict Islamists - that's one explanation? Or was it NOT the Islamists, but someone else, with Islamists being made the fall guys? If someone else, who? Does not fit Basque separatists style of bombings. Who does that leave? This kind of thinking makes me feel like a Troother - can anybody put together an internally-consistent story that makes sense?

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2007-10-31 09:54|| 2007-10-31 09:54|| Front Page Top

#7 It isn't but this has nothing to do with the sentence. The sentence was not reflecting neither a weakness against terrorism nor "dount benefits accused", it reflects that the whiole investigation was a lie aimed at covering up for the fabrication of false evidences and an agit-prop campaign by the Spanish socialists in order to alter the result of elections.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2007-10-31 09:55|| 2007-10-31 09:55|| Front Page Top

#8 "it is possible to fight this type of [Islamist] terrorism through the courts"

Trust a craven Spaniard to utter such complete and total balderdash.

does anyone seriously believe that "law enforcement" is the way to fight terrorism?

Spot on, er ... Spot. You fight terrorism by killing terrorists, their sponsors, equippers and financiers. You keep killing them in large numbers until all attacks cease. Using the legal system to fight terrorism is like going deer hunting with an accordian.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-10-31 13:46|| 2007-10-31 13:46|| Front Page Top

#9 Exactly, Zen. It's hard to appeal a 7.62 mm sentence.

Posted by Spot">Spot 2007-10-31 14:33|| 2007-10-31 14:33|| Front Page Top

#10 This just in...
"A Spanish court has convicted three of the eight men accused of playing a central role in the 2004 Madrid train bombings and sentenced each of them to almost 40,000 years in prison."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/31/wspain431.xml

They can be out in 40 years.

Posted by Darrell 2007-10-31 14:57|| 2007-10-31 14:57|| Front Page Top

#11 You don't fight terrorism by killing phone resellers or petty criminals with no relation to Islamism not even as propagandists, messengers or other support roles.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2007-10-31 18:44|| 2007-10-31 18:44|| Front Page Top

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