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2007-11-30 Home Front: Politix
Biden: Impeachment if Bush bombs Iran
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Posted by Delphi 2007-11-30 08:20|| || Front Page|| [1 views ]  Top

#1 The President has no authority to unilaterally attack Iran...

Um... Yes he does. It is called the War Powers Act. Man, I am so tired of dhimocrat crying and stupidity along with their left wing, uninformed fringe. Urge to kill... rising...
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2007-11-30 09:02||   2007-11-30 09:02|| Front Page Top

#2 more than likely bush will do it when he is about too leave office anyway so what would the impeachment process be worth going through
Posted by  sinse 2007-11-30 09:08||   2007-11-30 09:08|| Front Page Top

#3 “If you’re going to impeach George Bush, you better impeach Cheney first,” said Biden, which also received applause.

Damn, they're still terrified of Cheney, aren't they?
Posted by tu3031 2007-11-30 09:12||   2007-11-30 09:12|| Front Page Top

#4 "Yes he does. It is called the War Powers Act."
Mark Levin calls Biden the dumbest man in the senate.
Posted by doc 2007-11-30 09:29||   2007-11-30 09:29|| Front Page Top

#5 Damn, they're still terrified of Cheney, aren't they?

The 'Impeach Bush' yard signs in my neighborhood have recently been updated with little red stickers over the'Bush' part. The little red stickers say 'them both'.
Posted by Seafarious 2007-11-30 09:42||   2007-11-30 09:42|| Front Page Top

#6 Can senators be impeached?
Posted by JFM">JFM  2007-11-30 09:47||   2007-11-30 09:47|| Front Page Top

#7 Why is Biden so convinced "W" won't come to the Congress for a War Declaration? The Iranians would probable mount a preempted strategy anyway, just from the jittery nerves of 'sitting and waiting' the vote!! Handing Bush the trump card to play in the finally anyway!
Posted by smn 2007-11-30 09:57||   2007-11-30 09:57|| Front Page Top

#8  #6 Can senators be impeached?

No, but they can be censured and even expelled.

Even censure takes a great deal more effort than anyone in today's Senate is going to exert. Also, with Biden's party at the reins, it isn't going to happen anyway.
Posted by eLarson 2007-11-30 10:52|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com]  2007-11-30 10:52|| Front Page Top

#9 The Arabs - except Syria - are somewhat online on the Iran proliferation issue.

I would hope that the President doesn't tip his hand by seeking pro facto support for the bombing. The rationale is obvious. During the Grenada and Panama interventions, President Reagan started explaining the second the troops hit the ground. Good idea.
Posted by McZoid 2007-11-30 10:55||   2007-11-30 10:55|| Front Page Top

#10 We really should bring back dueling I think. Then politics will be alot more fun and I think even the common men and women of America would enjoy watching C-SPAN.
Posted by Silentbrick">Silentbrick  2007-11-30 11:19||   2007-11-30 11:19|| Front Page Top

#11 JFM__ they impeach themselves... every time they open their mouths
Posted by Snavick Wittlesbach6558 2007-11-30 11:32||   2007-11-30 11:32|| Front Page Top

#12 I agree, Silent. The manners of this country have been going downhill ever since duelling was outlawed. Besides, practically any "diminuation" of Congress would act to raise the IQ of the body politic.
Posted by Skunky Slinemble1699 2007-11-30 11:34||   2007-11-30 11:34|| Front Page Top

#13 Even if Bush went to Congress (as he did prior to Iraq) the Congress would forget their vote when convenient. Congress, established to balance the power of the Judicial and Executive branches has been a pansy and let-down lately.
Posted by rjschwarz 2007-11-30 11:36||   2007-11-30 11:36|| Front Page Top

#14 Shut up Biden. Nancy boy.
Posted by Broadhead6 2007-11-30 12:36||   2007-11-30 12:36|| Front Page Top

#15 Biden said the best deterrent to prevent preemptive military action in Iran is to make it clear, even if it is at the end of his final term, action will be taken against Bush to ensure “his legacy will be marred for all time.”

Little does this spineless moron realize that bombing Iran and pre-empting their aquisition of nuclear weapons would one of the few things to burnish Bush's now-faltering legacy in ways that little else could.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-11-30 12:42||   2007-11-30 12:42|| Front Page Top

#16 Joltin' Joe, bloviatin' agin. You'd think he'd eventually get tired of the taste of his own feet, wouldn't you?
Posted by mojo">mojo  2007-11-30 13:02||   2007-11-30 13:02|| Front Page Top

#17 What will Biden do if France bombs them?
Posted by crosspatch 2007-11-30 13:07||   2007-11-30 13:07|| Front Page Top

#18 And besides ... they can "impeach" all they want, it would take 66 members to convict and there has to be a crime committed.

Bombing Iran without congressional approval is NOT against the law. The first thing Biden would have to do is decide what law such a bombing violated. You can't impeach just because you don't LIKE what someone did, the purpose if impeachment is to bring top Executive and Judicial branch members to justice when otherwise they might either pardon themselves or otherwise rule in their own favor.
Posted by crosspatch 2007-11-30 13:10||   2007-11-30 13:10|| Front Page Top

#19 Biush can do anything he wants for 30 days as long as he notifies Congress in a proper manner, then has to go conress within 60 days after that to ask for more funding. Or so I understand it.
Posted by OldSpook 2007-11-30 13:42||   2007-11-30 13:42|| Front Page Top

#20 The War Powers Act allows the President to use military forces for 60 days, without a formal declaration of war by Congress. It also grants an additional 30 days upon a formal request by the President, regardless of Congress's agreement with the request.
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2007-11-30 13:52||   2007-11-30 13:52|| Front Page Top

#21 90 days should be more than sufficient to bounce the rubble a few times.

Biden is a twit in the Carter/Kerry/Gore category. Rantburg needs a twit filter so those of us who want to can tune out this witless noise.
Posted by Darrell 2007-11-30 14:00||   2007-11-30 14:00|| Front Page Top

#22 Broadhead6
Shut up Biden. Nancy boy.

mojo
Joltin' Joe, bloviatin' agin. You'd think he'd eventually get tired of the taste of his own feet, wouldn't you?

Rolf! In a World of nettlesome things.. RB is a soothing salve.. LOL

Biden is one hell of an A$$-embarrassment.., let's all pray for a falling piano..
Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg  2007-11-30 14:29||   2007-11-30 14:29|| Front Page Top

#23 Well, we can't all be found guilty of plagiarism like Mr. Biden! It takes a certain amount of ineptness to get caught so blatantly.
Posted by 3dc 2007-11-30 14:55||   2007-11-30 14:55|| Front Page Top

#24 I suppose what surprises me most is that he even said such a thing. Well, maybe that says more about the average American than it does about him.

He knows the law and he knows there is no way to bring charges for bombing Iran unless they pass legislation explicitly making that the case. But saying so apparently appeals to a good number of the population who apparently don't know what impeachment is or what the war powers act is.

Either way ... he isn't the idiot, we are the idiots because if he thought the people would understand this, he would have never said it. HE knows better, but he knows that for the most part WE don't know better.

Shame on us.
Posted by crosspatch 2007-11-30 16:07||   2007-11-30 16:07|| Front Page Top

#25 Does anyone remember what Senator Biden's position was back in 1999 regarding Kosovo? I can recall President Clinton and Madeline Albright authorizing the bombing Serbia and Kosovo without congressional approval at that time.

Excellent point. Biden has always been full of crap.

Biden joked about his low poll numbers, how the national media does not cover him and the lack of funding compared to the coffers of fellow hopefuls Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

Proving that even most dhimmicrats understand what a loser Biden is.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2007-11-30 16:20||   2007-11-30 16:20|| Front Page Top

#26 I think there must be some asbestos or other toxic chemicals in the halls of Congress. It's like they all have alzheimers or brain damage.
Posted by Whomong Guelph4611 2007-11-30 17:10||   2007-11-30 17:10|| Front Page Top

#27 LUCIANNE > Dubya is not afraid and will STILL send in US military troops into PAKISTAN iff he = USA has true evidence that Osama, etal. are indeed hiding out in Paki areas.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-11-30 19:33||   2007-11-30 19:33|| Front Page Top

#28 This is simply Joe Biden's way of reminding Democratic primary voters he's still running for the Democratic presidential nomination. My feeling is that this is just a throwaway line to get the press to sit up and pay attention. When push comes to shove, he'll just make the usual bland remarks about how pursuing this line would be unnecessarily divisive.
Posted by Zhang Fei 2007-11-30 20:55|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2007-11-30 20:55|| Front Page Top

#29 MIL FORUM Posters > believe SAHAB-3 range can be easily extended to 5000 kilometers iff new Ashoura-Ghadir techs applied.

PAYVAND/TOPIX > US SAYS IRANIAN REVOLUTIONARY GUARDS NOW PATROLLING THE GULF. Any and all Iranian naval operations in Gulf now placed under IRGC for approxi 4-5 years. USN considers move a serious development.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2007-11-30 21:25||   2007-11-30 21:25|| Front Page Top

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