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2007-12-14 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
They losts the plans to the Admiral Gorshkov! Snark!
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Posted by 3dc 2007-12-14 09:11|| || Front Page|| [9 views ]  Top

#1 Somebody got themselves a nice little nest egg. Or maybe the cleaners used them to light the kitchen fire.
Posted by Grunter 2007-12-14 10:01||   2007-12-14 10:01|| Front Page Top

#2 Gee... how sad. We could sell India one of our old ones for 700 million.
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2007-12-14 10:13||   2007-12-14 10:13|| Front Page Top

#3 Better take out the extended warranty policy as well.
Indians negotiating with Russians... ought to put that on pay per view as the undercard for the next Mayweather-Hatton fight.
Posted by Capsu78 2007-12-14 11:10||   2007-12-14 11:10|| Front Page Top

#4 Anybody check ebay?
Posted by Pappy 2007-12-14 11:18||   2007-12-14 11:18|| Front Page Top

#5 Having spent time at Mare Island and Newport News, I just love these stories.
Posted by Penguin 2007-12-14 11:36||   2007-12-14 11:36|| Front Page Top

#6 They only had one copy?
Posted by Gabby Cussworth 2007-12-14 12:04||   2007-12-14 12:04|| Front Page Top

#7 ...The Soviets Russians know exactly where those blueprints are, and as soon as the Indians offer them enough money, they'll 'find' a copy. Trouble is, it's probably entirely too late now. The Indians have had just about enough, and the Russians shouldn't be surprised if the Gorshkov just sits where she's at and rots.

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2007-12-14 13:22||   2007-12-14 13:22|| Front Page Top

#8 Perhaps they should as US Naval Intelligence if they have a copy.
Posted by rjschwarz 2007-12-14 13:42||   2007-12-14 13:42|| Front Page Top

#9 IIRC, we've got two or three conventional carriers in "gently used" condition we could probably be persuaded to part with.
Posted by Mike 2007-12-14 13:44||   2007-12-14 13:44|| Front Page Top

#10 "Russians know exactly where those blueprints are, ..."

yeah, in Bejing
Posted by Sluns Gonque7214 2007-12-14 13:54||   2007-12-14 13:54|| Front Page Top

#11 Russian Efficiency.
Posted by mojo">mojo  2007-12-14 14:40||   2007-12-14 14:40|| Front Page Top

#12 Mike K has a good assessment of the *ahem* business situation, it seems to me.

That said, India is in sort of a sticky wicket. They could take posession of the Carrier and tow it out and finish building it somewhere else, or they could write it off and buy an nice used one from us. The problem is that India is in deep with Russian weapon systems, so like a bubble in a lineoleum floor, the problem and money shortfalls will just move to some other venue. Isn't it fun working with the Russians? Got to look deep into Pooty Poot's soul before you bet a billion, heh.
Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul  2007-12-14 14:54||   2007-12-14 14:54|| Front Page Top

#13 The Indians got exactly what they deserved.
Posted by mrp 2007-12-14 14:54||   2007-12-14 14:54|| Front Page Top

#14 Sell them the kitty
Posted by OldSpook 2007-12-14 16:00||   2007-12-14 16:00|| Front Page Top

#15 hellwithit, GIVE them the kitty and let them pay for the overhaul in Norfolk.
Posted by OldSpook 2007-12-14 16:01||   2007-12-14 16:01|| Front Page Top

#16 I think there were 3 in the class. 1 or 2 ended up in China, so the Chinese do have the blueprints.
Posted by ed 2007-12-14 17:20||   2007-12-14 17:20|| Front Page Top

#17 Russia used India, with the money for this upgrade/sale they've been fixing up their fleet. Delaying the Indian delivery the whole time. They may think they're burning just one customer but word spreads and this will seriously hurt naval sales and other sales may require cash on delivery.
Posted by rjschwarz 2007-12-14 17:21||   2007-12-14 17:21|| Front Page Top

#18 I bet the Ukrainians have the blueprints stashed somewhere. Some cash will make it worth their while to open a few file drawers.
Posted by ed 2007-12-14 17:23||   2007-12-14 17:23|| Front Page Top

#19 I'm cool with your idea, 'Spook, but I'd rather give India another ship and transfer the Kitty to Japan--where they'd rename it the Hello Kitty Hawk. :-)
Posted by MIke 2007-12-14 22:05||   2007-12-14 22:05|| Front Page Top

#20 ...they'd rename it the "Hello Kitty Hawk".
And paint it pink?
Posted by GK 2007-12-14 23:12||   2007-12-14 23:12|| Front Page Top

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