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2008-01-08 Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iran sez: "What's the fuss about?"
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Posted by Seafarious 2008-01-08 00:00|| || Front Page|| [18 views ]  Top

#1 The U.S. side asked Tehran to provide an explanation to the interception by 50 Iranian naval ships of three U.S. warships

BS flag down! The "explanation" should come from the ship's Captains and the Commander, US Central Command for not immediately ordering the Iranian vessels dispatched to the bottom, with stronger message to follow! Roll the footage please.
Posted by Besoeker 2008-01-08 00:45||   2008-01-08 00:45|| Front Page Top

#2 We do this all the time. Just like we did with the soviets. This is a common thing actually. Ohh, the stories.

Iran, If you EVER do this again, we should pound you hard. If you come within a KM of a vessel, or drop suspicious packages, you are going to drown. Period. Thats ROE.
Posted by newc">newc  2008-01-08 01:14||   2008-01-08 01:14|| Front Page Top

#3 BS flag down! The "explanation" should come from the ship's Captains and the Commander, US Central Command for not immediately ordering the Iranian vessels dispatched to the bottom, with stronger message to follow!

Do me a favor, Besoeker. Stick to talking sh*t about things you know, 'kay?
Posted by Pappy 2008-01-08 01:31||   2008-01-08 01:31|| Front Page Top

#4 Pappy,
You can use CWIS against a small boat can't you? I would think it would just leave an oil slick with a reddish tinge.
Posted by Super Hose 2008-01-08 01:53||   2008-01-08 01:53|| Front Page Top

#5 Do me a favor, Besoeker. Stick to talking sh*t about things you know, 'kay?

An interesting comment from Mr. CBDR himself. Been down to see the Golden Rivet lately Pap's? Hey, I need some relative bearing grease, why don't you pop on down the bo'sun shack pick me up a can?
Posted by Slats Chains8089 2008-01-08 05:21||   2008-01-08 05:21|| Front Page Top

#6 Could you get me a Boilerman's punch while you're at it? #-)
Posted by gorb 2008-01-08 05:50||   2008-01-08 05:50|| Front Page Top

#7 It's sad but I was once explaining the steam blanket scam to someone and a sailor offered to get me one.
Posted by Super Hose 2008-01-08 07:34||   2008-01-08 07:34|| Front Page Top

#8 When ashore I'd send the FNG for a jackhammer sparkplug.
Posted by GORT 2008-01-08 07:37||   2008-01-08 07:37|| Front Page Top

#9 You can use CWIS against a small boat can't you?

Maybe, but I wouldn't. That seems like massive overkill, especially since Iran has SSM's that might be a better use for the CWIS.

ISTR that 200 yards is well within 50-cal range. If it's not, well, maybe the Marines could use some of their air assets to escort naval assets.
Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford  2008-01-08 07:38|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2008-01-08 07:38|| Front Page Top

#10 On the cruisers and destroyers I expect that the response to the SAM's would be the standard missile. You could actually use a standard missile against a surface target, but I think that the Captain would balk at wasting a standard missile for the reason that you described.

If I were planning an attack on three USN ships transitting the Straits of Hormuz, I would use a fishing fleet of dhows as cover for small fast-movers loaded with explosives.
Posted by Super Hose 2008-01-08 07:53||   2008-01-08 07:53|| Front Page Top

#11 An interesting comment from Mr. CBDR himself.

Nice to hear from you again too. How's life in the squeegee business?

SH, you could use CIWS. The chain-gun's probably more appropriate for surface targets.

Better still would be armed SH-60s.
Posted by Pappy 2008-01-08 09:42||   2008-01-08 09:42|| Front Page Top

#12 Toss me the shoreline.
Posted by eLarson 2008-01-08 09:55|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com]  2008-01-08 09:55|| Front Page Top

#13 Nice to hear from you again too. How's life in the squeegee business?

Mine are kind of dull, a good squeegee sharpener is hard to find these days.
Posted by Slats Chains8089 2008-01-08 10:36||   2008-01-08 10:36|| Front Page Top

#14 What about issuing a LAW to each Bosun Mate in Repair 2 and Repair 3 and have them run topside for a simultaneous broadside?
Posted by Super Hose 2008-01-08 10:44||   2008-01-08 10:44|| Front Page Top

#15 Iranians are embarrassed and now lying. I love it!
Posted by Bugs Hupusose2306 2008-01-08 10:51||   2008-01-08 10:51|| Front Page Top

#16 I don't think they're embarrassed, they think it's some kind of macho thing that they've done. They probably think they have made us look like powerless idiots on an international shipping lane, and that was my first feeling about it as well.
Posted by bigjim-ky 2008-01-08 11:04||   2008-01-08 11:04|| Front Page Top

#17 Wow, all this navy talk is exciting.
Posted by village idiot 2008-01-08 11:53||   2008-01-08 11:53|| Front Page Top

#18 Hey, can an old Brown Shoe Sailor join in? I have a spare can of PropWash and a few extra padeye wrenches.
Posted by Tyranysaurus Chomoth7114 2008-01-08 12:12||   2008-01-08 12:12|| Front Page Top

#19 #8: When ashore I'd send the FNG for a jackhammer sparkplug.

Mmmm, you haven't seen those gasoline powered jackhammers, have you?
They DO exist, I see them used pounding dirt for foundations all the time.
Also Pile Drivers now are a big single cylinder Diesel. (No BS, they make a double thump each stroke)
Posted by Redneck Jim 2008-01-08 12:13||   2008-01-08 12:13|| Front Page Top

#20 #14: What about issuing a LAW to each Bosun Mate in Repair 2 and Repair 3 and have them run topside for a simultaneous broadside?
Posted by: Super Hose|| 2008-01-08 10:44 ||Comments Top||


I would LOVE to see that on tape!

Have them sing something appropriately Gilbert and Sullivanish prior to lock-on.
Posted by Ptah">Ptah  2008-01-08 12:20|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]  2008-01-08 12:20|| Front Page Top

#21 LAWs? That would be cool.

a good squeegee sharpener is hard to find these days.

Just run them between your teeth.
Posted by Pappy 2008-01-08 13:53||   2008-01-08 13:53|| Front Page Top

#22 Pappy, how hard would it be to use the sorts of remote cannons they're setting up as some sort of dual-use CIWS system?

Can they get targeting information from the phalanx system and compensate for whatever offset there is in the location of the gun?
Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2008-01-08 14:22||   2008-01-08 14:22|| Front Page Top

#23 Stabilizied cannons like the Phalanx and Mk 38 mod 2. Also the Javelin antitank missile could be ideal to lock onto and destroy small craft before they can get within firing range.
Posted by ed 2008-01-08 15:03||   2008-01-08 15:03|| Front Page Top

#24 Box of LOBs - make sure they are metric, and a couple yards of flight line.
Posted by OldSpook 2008-01-08 15:53||   2008-01-08 15:53|| Front Page Top

#25 And a quart of turn signal fluid
Posted by eLarson 2008-01-08 16:04|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com]  2008-01-08 16:04|| Front Page Top

#26 The Captain just mentioned he's pining for a nice roast snipe.
Posted by Seafarious 2008-01-08 16:09||   2008-01-08 16:09|| Front Page Top

#27 AS, I'll talk to you at the usual venue... suffice it to say that a lot of this wouldn't be 'field mods'.
Posted by Pappy 2008-01-08 16:46||   2008-01-08 16:46|| Front Page Top

#28 OK. See ya there.
Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2008-01-08 17:20||   2008-01-08 17:20|| Front Page Top

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