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2008-01-22 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

Russian bombers to test-fire missiles in Bay of Biscay

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Posted by lotp 2008-01-22 13:50|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 Oh boy! "Aircraft carriers and battleships"! Sounds exciting!!

Posted by tu3031 2008-01-22 14:43|| 2008-01-22 14:43|| Front Page Top

#2 Test fire missiles. No mention of actually firing them and having them hit something.

Discipline is also still a major problem for Russias armed forces, which rely heavily on conscripts and outdated equipment.

Telling....

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2008-01-22 14:47|| 2008-01-22 14:47|| Front Page Top

#3 Excuse me, but does anyone care to speculate what the odds are those bombers would make it over the North Sea in one piece if there was a real war going on?

I'm just asking because I wonder if there is really any value to this exercise other than domestic propaganda for Putin?

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2008-01-22 14:59|| 2008-01-22 14:59|| Front Page Top

#4 Good chance for Norway to test their "Valkyrie" anti-Bear missiles...

Posted by mojo">mojo 2008-01-22 15:03|| 2008-01-22 15:03|| Front Page Top

#5 It would be a hoot if France and Spain sent a marine expeditionary force on maneuvers and landings along Bulgaria's Black Sea coast - just a joint NATO exercise after all. Sarkozy's been fairly bold to date.

Posted by Halliburton - Hyperbolic Idiot Detection Service 2008-01-22 16:04|| 2008-01-22 16:04|| Front Page Top

#6 Russia last month said it would begin major navy sorties into the Mediterranean, with 11 ships backed up by 47 aircraft, that would then travel to the Atlantic for exercises.

Probably five times that many cannibalised to get these working.

Posted by Pappy 2008-01-22 17:03|| 2008-01-22 17:03|| Front Page Top

#7 Your petro dollars at work. Lower primate behavior in action that has nothing to do with real national security.

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-01-22 17:16|| 2008-01-22 17:16|| Front Page Top

#8 One the one part, DUBYA has made it clear times to the world that he will NOT be a lame duck POTUS vv Radical Iran + same haveing nuke weapons potential or de facto capability. IOW, DUBYA = USA MAY TAKE UNILATER MIL ACTION ANY TIME THRU 12/2008, wid first six months of 2008 as his most ideal pol acceptable time frame.

On the other part, NEITHER RUSSIA NOR CHINA HAVE FORMALLY RENOUNCED THEIR "WAR IS NOT ONLY POSSIBLY BUT DESIRED" ANTI-US AGENDA as per 2010-2020 decade > Russia approxi Year 2018 +/-, CHINA 2014 +/- [TAIWAN independence].

Lest we fergit also, RADICAL/ISLAMIST MULLAHS > OIL-RESOURCES CATACLYSM = REGIONAL-GLOBAL MUTUAL DESTRUCTION, etc > ANY AND ALL IS TO ISLAM's = ISLAMISM'S ADVANTAGE.

D *** NG IT, BUY YOUR POST-MAD, POST-APOCALYPSE CAMEL FUTURES NOW, SILLY AMERS + WESTERN CRUSADERS - ISLAM WILL RULE THE EARTH ONE WAY OR ANOTHER!

IIRC, SEAN CONNERY in THE LION AND THE DESERT [corr title?][paraph] > "When the Mountains, the Seas, and the Forests are gone, when nation had destroyed nation, ONLY THE DESERT WILL BE LEFT AND MY PEOPLE WILL STILL BE HERE".

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-01-22 17:26|| 2008-01-22 17:26|| Front Page Top

#9 Would be kind of cool if tomorrow's headline read: " Russian Bombers float-checked into the Bay of Biscay by unknown Missles."

Posted by USN,Ret. 2008-01-22 17:49|| 2008-01-22 17:49|| Front Page Top

#10 The British take on this

Posted by tipper 2008-01-22 19:07|| 2008-01-22 19:07|| Front Page Top

#11 IOn, WAFF.com > MEMRI.org - Iranian website TABANAK claims that IRAN, wid help from SYRIA, CAN DESTROY HALF OD ISRAEL in the aftermath/
retaliation for any Israeli missle attack on Iran.
Iran's doctrine is based on IERREGULAR DEFENSE, ergo Israel [USA] will find it very difficult to successfully target any specific Iranian cache of missles = other weapons [nukies], LET ALONE SUCCESS DESTROY ALL OF THEM. In addition, post-Israeli attack, Iran can implement its Iran-Syria agreement on inter-nation strategic defense. ANY ISRAELI ATTACK AGZ IRAN ALSO INVITES MIL RESPONSE BY SYRIA AS WELL AS BY TERROR ORGS i.e. HAMAS [Pals/PA], ISLAMIC JIHAD, AND HIZBULLAH/
HEZBOLLAH, etc. espec from LEBANON. ANY IRAN COUNTER-ATTACK DOES NOT EVEN HAVE TO BE LAUNCHED FROM IRAN PROPER.

Compare wid FR Poster argument that in any war = attack scenario agz the USA, CHINA may decide to use NORTH KOREA as PDeniable proxy to strike and damage CONUS-NORAM based US SPAWAR, COMMWAR, andor ENERGY GRIDS-NETWORKS via EMP detonations. China will then closely scrutnize the US mil response agz NK to dtermin iff the US is weak enuff, and iff so to then attack TAIWAN [Japan, SK?].

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-01-22 19:35|| 2008-01-22 19:35|| Front Page Top

#12 #1: Oh boy! "Aircraft carriers and battleships"! Sounds exciting!!

Actually that is a very unfair fight, the Battleships are severely handicapped here, they would be sunk far out of gun range long before they even fired a shot.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2008-01-22 20:36|| 2008-01-22 20:36|| Front Page Top

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