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2008-01-22 Europe

Fjordman : Ten Reasons to Get Rid of the European Union A First Draft

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Posted by anonymous5089 2008-01-22 14:28|| || Front Page|| [6 views ] Top

#1 Oh and number 11. When the crap hits the fan again in Europe and if the Americans do come back to clean up the mess a third time, there will already be a management structure for the American Proconsuls to operate the place afterwards.

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-01-22 16:55|| 2008-01-22 16:55|| Front Page Top

#2 A dirty little secret is that we won't go back. When a family has 3 or 4 sons, they can lose one and go on with the memory. When they have only one or two, the loss is too great. Americans (and Chinese) have too few sons and will not sacrifice them in the numbers necessary to reconquer the continent again. But we might be persuaded to find out if there's enough sand in Europe to glass it.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-01-22 16:59|| 2008-01-22 16:59|| Front Page Top

#3 Nimble, that's not really a secret, at least not in America.

I imagine when the tipping point reaches the "good" Europeans will flow out to North America in large numbers and a few years later Eurabia will be born by default. Either that or lots of riots are brutally repressed and immigration ended and Mosques destroyed.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-01-22 17:17|| 2008-01-22 17:17|| Front Page Top

#4 I suspect that Europe will devolve into what it was for hundreds of years: individual states with mercenary armies.

This is an evolution from where they are now. To start with, there can be no EU military, because no one will pay for it, unless they control it, and there are large factions that don't want one at all.

National armies, however, are also failing, because they are too expensive to maintain along with excessive social programs. This leaves corporate and private armies such as Blackwater, and the French foreign legion to carry out national external policies.

A great secret of Europe is that these mercenary armies have never really disappeared, just moved offshore. Copenhagen is notorious as a place to secure men, equipment, and skill for mercenary operations. The leaders and NCOs were European, but most of their soldiers were African and Asian.

Mercenary armies are very cost effective, and can give individual European countries the muscle to have a foreign policy outside of Europe. I suspect that they will begin on a small scale, doing things like anti-piracy operations, then just keep growing.

Posted by Anonymoose 2008-01-22 17:18|| 2008-01-22 17:18|| Front Page Top

#5 rjschwarz -

Whatcha mean "when" the tipping point has been reached? That point has already been reached: look at the emigraton figures from each and every Western European country? The numbers will boggle your mind. It's astonishing. We're there already.

I'm not convinced we (American blood) won't be back - again - to try to save Europe from itself. There is alot of history we draw upon in Europe...texts...manuscripts..architecture..All of which is worth preserving though it won't be the reason we go back to Europe.

If/when we go back it will be to take the nukes away from the muzzies. Put another way...to prevent the muzzies from having the nukes.

My grandsons will be the ones to return to Europe - again. We (the USA/OZ - given present trends not so much Canada) won't allow Europe to fall to islam without a fight. The question shouild be: is Europe worth the blood of more American sons. I think the answer is yes...it is.
Does Europe deserve the spilt blood of American youth? No. But that has never stopped us before.

The Defenses Must Hold.

We'll be back again. Not in our lifetime. But we'll be back soon enough. Think in terms of a Catholic Polish King named Sobieski in 1638. He answered the call and crushed the muslim onslaught. History repeats itself.

Posted by MarkZ 2008-01-22 19:50|| 2008-01-22 19:50|| Front Page Top

#6 Do not mistake hte point of no return with the tipping point. I'm not sure either has been reached but when/if a tipping point happens it will happen quickly.

YOu can look at all the demographic numbers in the world and that doesn't change the fact that a well armed majority could slaughter and expel people if pushed to far. The Europeans have a history of this and the longer they wait the more likely the response, if there is one, will be brutal.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-01-22 21:20|| 2008-01-22 21:20|| Front Page Top

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