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2008-01-25 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

Al Gore: Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared

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Posted by gorb 2008-01-25 05:16|| || Front Page|| [10 views ] Top

#1 Every time Gore is hort on cash the climate becomes warmer.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2008-01-25 10:07|| 2008-01-25 10:07|| Front Page Top

#2 If the Arctic Ocean ice caps disappear it will be easier to tanker North Slope oil to the East Coast markets.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2008-01-25 10:43|| 2008-01-25 10:43|| Front Page Top

#3 Perhaps it was all the jets flying to Indonesia for that climate conference.

I think he knows MAN MADE Global Warming is a fraud. I used to give him the benefit of the doubt but his carbon footprint is huge and he just doesn't care. He could do more good as President and he just didn't care. Scientists say its bunk and he responds that its worse than feared. Fearmonger trying to shore up his minions before they start using logic.

Al Gore, have you no shame.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-01-25 10:44|| 2008-01-25 10:44|| Front Page Top

#4 He's been sniffing too much climate model glue.

Posted by eLarson 2008-01-25 10:44|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com] 2008-01-25 10:44|| Front Page Top

#5 If there is a buck to be squeezed out of global warming, Gore will find it.

Posted by JohnQC 2008-01-25 10:50|| 2008-01-25 10:50|| Front Page Top

#6 As Glenn Reynolds likes to say, "I'll believe global warming is a crisis when the people who say it is a crisis start acting as if it is so."

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2008-01-25 10:51|| 2008-01-25 10:51|| Front Page Top

#7 Al Gore: Climate change 'significantly worse' than feared

Al Gore is about as dumb as feared.

Posted by Bob Elmomoque6792 2008-01-25 11:10|| 2008-01-25 11:10|| Front Page Top

#8 Must be the wheels falling off the AGW scam.

Posted by Bright Pebbles in Blairistan 2008-01-25 11:16|| 2008-01-25 11:16|| Front Page Top

#9 I've said it before, and I'll say it again: if the ENTIRE Arctic ice cap melted, it would not raise sea levels one millimeter. Ice shrinks as it melts.
The Antarctic ice cap is another matter, since much of it is based on land. However, at the present, the Antarctic ice cap is actually growing. (An inconvenient truth that the Goreacle ignores.)

Posted by Rambler">Rambler 2008-01-25 11:36|| 2008-01-25 11:36|| Front Page Top

#10 His "Crisis" is that more and more folks are recognizing the IPP study (and Mr. Gore's rantings) as rubbish.

Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects

Loehle Temperature Reconstruction Corrected

Senate Report Debunks "Consensus"

The list goes on...........

Posted by Mullah Richard 2008-01-25 11:44|| 2008-01-25 11:44|| Front Page Top

#11 He's been sniffing too much climate model glue.

I saw what you did thar, and Ima telling!

Posted by Thomas Woof 2008-01-25 11:57|| http://www.cybernations.net]">[http://www.cybernations.net] 2008-01-25 11:57|| Front Page Top

#12 Al Gore's weight is significantly worse. Geeze the guy is eating well. Go exercise Gore! Wait, that makes more CO2.

Well just render yourself carbon neutral then.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2008-01-25 12:25|| 2008-01-25 12:25|| Front Page Top

#13 This is pretty good.

Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues 2008-01-25 13:02|| 2008-01-25 13:02|| Front Page Top

#14 I saw an article very recently that a huge lake of fresh water was discovered under the Antarctic Ice Cap.
So it floats too, so much for that bogus theory.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2008-01-25 13:13|| 2008-01-25 13:13|| Front Page Top

#15 There's a typo in the headline:

"Al Gore is 'significantly worse' than feared"

Fixed.

Posted by Iblis 2008-01-25 13:27|| 2008-01-25 13:27|| Front Page Top

#16 In 1972 the call was Nuclear Winter! It didn't fly! Lately it's been Global Warming, but that is being revised to the new scare phrase "Climate Change".

I was a Meteorologist for over ten years and I agree with the Sun's activity is having more effect then man. However, here are 10 items that prove Global Warming:

1. The glacier in Yosemite Valley is gone.

2. The glaciers that formed the fjords of Scandinavia are gone.

3. The glaciers that formed the Great Lakes are gone.

4. The island of Maui was once greater in size than today's island of Hawaii but the seas rose and split it into 5 islands.

5. Hurricane activity was greater than normal in 2004 and 2005.

6. Hurricane activity was less than normal in 2006 and 2007.

7. Hurricane activity keeps fluctuating.

8. The Colorado River basin is returning to its normal dry climate versus the wet climate of the past decades.

9. My cat had more fur balls this year than last.

10. Al Gore is getting fatter.

Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2008-01-25 13:50|| 2008-01-25 13:50|| Front Page Top

#17 ahemm.....

Here on the Left Coast, Northern Ca, it has been the Coldest Winter in my long memory.
Wet as hell too..
The Snow pack is very DEEP... and up in the foothills and the Sierras Mountains the Damns are all releasing beau-coup water.

De-plane Al and take a hike....

Posted by RD">RD 2008-01-25 13:56|| 2008-01-25 13:56|| Front Page Top

#18 If the Artic icecap melts then the Northwest Passage will be open to ships that are too large for the Panama Canal. This will save billions in transport costs getting things from the North Atlantic to the North Pacific. What a deal!

Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2008-01-25 14:00|| 2008-01-25 14:00|| Front Page Top

#19 "As Glenn Reynolds likes to say, "I'll believe global warming is a crisis when the people who ay it is a crisis start acting as if it is so.""

Im not sure exactly what that means, sell short coastal land?

Sacrifice their own interests to save everyone else? This whole Al Gore burns energy thingie? Look man, its a free rider problem. Externality. Enviros arent necessarily any less selfish than anyone else.

Look, this is NOT a crisis, if by crisis you mean something bad thats gonna happen in the next 5 years. What it is, is like a freight train that takes a VERY long time to stop. And SOMEWHERE up ahead is a wall you DONT want to crash into. We can debate how far the wall is (IE how bad will a 3 degree c rise really be, maybe the wheat farms in the Yukon and the CO2 help to growing plants will offset all the expected bad things) but if 3 degrees isnt as bad as the pollyanas say, SOMEWHERE out there, maybe 4 degrees, maybe 5, the wall is there. And we still have our foot on the gas, so to speak.

Posted by Dopey Flotle8127 2008-01-25 14:03|| 2008-01-25 14:03|| Front Page Top

#20 and why is it surprising that you can forecast climate better than two weeks ahead weather? I cant forecast tomorrows stock market, but I can tell you in the long run the US stock markets will increase. Day to day random stuff balances out over time.

Posted by Dopey Flotle8127 2008-01-25 14:05|| 2008-01-25 14:05|| Front Page Top

#21 #18 - yup and theres already tension over that - the Canadians claim it as territorial waters, we hold it to be international waters.

Posted by Dopey Flotle8127 2008-01-25 14:06|| 2008-01-25 14:06|| Front Page Top

#22 You're both right, the waters are international, but the ice belongs to Canada. The smell belongs to Al Gore.

Posted by wxjames 2008-01-25 14:25|| 2008-01-25 14:25|| Front Page Top

#23 International Waters Belong to US. This is due to Rule Britinnia.

Posted by Thomas Woof 2008-01-25 14:29|| http://www.cybernations.net]">[http://www.cybernations.net] 2008-01-25 14:29|| Front Page Top

#24 Al Gore: My take from the Climate change scam 'significantly worse' than feared

There - fixed.

Accuracy is important.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2008-01-25 14:46|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/] 2008-01-25 14:46|| Front Page Top

#25 Since it's an almost scientific connection between Al Gore presentations on global warming and cold snaps why not plan his next meeting in the arctic to freeze up some of those ice sheets.

Yeah some activists might be lost having a meeting in such a cold climate but we're talking about saving the planet here and that's just a risk I'm willing for them to take.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-01-25 15:05|| 2008-01-25 15:05|| Front Page Top

#26 OK, Dopey Flotle8127. What's the GDP per capita going to be in 2020? In current dollars and then current yuan.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-01-25 16:32|| 2008-01-25 16:32|| Front Page Top

#27 We can debate how far the wall is (IE how bad will a 3 degree c rise really be, maybe the wheat farms in the Yukon and the CO2 help to growing plants will offset all the expected bad things) but if 3 degrees isnt as bad as the pollyanas say, SOMEWHERE out there, maybe 4 degrees, maybe 5, the wall is there.

And, of course, the planet's NEVER been warmer than it is now.

Except, of course, it has. And it has been so within written history. And it wasn't a bad thing; just the opposite.

Why is warmer bad? The sea levels won't rise, not at any rate that can't be dealt with. Growing seasons will be longer.

Why is it assumed that a warmer Earth is the result of man's activities? Mars is warmer than it was a few years ago. There's a new red spot (massive storm) on Jupiter.

Why is the solution to a supposedly warming climate the same solution that was presented for a coming ice age? The same solution that was presented for a supposed world-wide famine? Why is giving other people more control over our lives the proper solution to every supposed climate danger?

Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford 2008-01-25 16:43|| 2008-01-25 16:43|| Front Page Top

#28 Sacrifice their own interests to save everyone else? This whole Al Gore burns energy thingie? Look man, its a free rider problem. Externality. Enviros arent necessarily any less selfish than anyone else.

They're demanding we live poorer, shorter, less enriching lives, for what comes down to their aesthetic/religious preference. The Amish probably believe everyone should live as they do, but they aren't trying to force it on the rest of us.

Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford 2008-01-25 16:46|| 2008-01-25 16:46|| Front Page Top

#29 When I was 16 talking about the weather was a sign of a date gone bad. Now its a matter of survival!!! or something.

albagore must be hocking wares cc gerbil swarming

Posted by swksvolFF 2008-01-25 17:53|| 2008-01-25 17:53|| Front Page Top

#30 It's like, 100 below zero on the poles. Even if we warmed 5 degrees, is he trying to tell me that the ice caps will melt at minus 95 degrees? All the ice around my house melts at 32 degrees.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2008-01-25 18:03|| 2008-01-25 18:03|| Front Page Top

#31 Summers, bigjim. But more importantly, will more or less snow fall on Antarctica and Greenland?

Posted by ed 2008-01-25 18:10|| 2008-01-25 18:10|| Front Page Top

#32 See also IRAN-DAILY > ONLY SCIENCE CAN SAVE US + GREEN DREAM.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-01-25 19:04|| 2008-01-25 19:04|| Front Page Top

#33 Warmer = more evaporation = more precipitation = more snow = icecaps grow (averaging the seasonal changes).

Within the last decade, the Greenland's ice cover receded at the eastern coastline but has grown in the central region of the island--and not talking about a small change here.

Posted by Spike Uniter 2008-01-25 19:04|| 2008-01-25 19:04|| Front Page Top

#34 "That boy Al is about as sharp as a sackful of wet mice"

/Foghorn Leghorn off

Posted by no mo uro 2008-01-25 21:30|| 2008-01-25 21:30|| Front Page Top

#35 When he left the White House, I recollect Gore's net worth was less than one million. Guess he's fixed that.

Posted by KBK 2008-01-25 21:32|| 2008-01-25 21:32|| Front Page Top

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