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2008-02-17 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Fred 2008-02-17 00:00|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 Will we ever be rid of the Clintons and their little helpers?

God, please make them go away.

Posted by Grailing and Tenille1838 2008-02-17 06:23|| 2008-02-17 06:23|| Front Page Top

#2 Ickes explained that his different position essentially is due to the different ~~faces~~ hats he wears.....

Posted by Besoeker 2008-02-17 08:27|| 2008-02-17 08:27|| Front Page Top

#3 Harold Ickes, a top adviser to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign who voted to strip Michigan and Florida of their delegates last year, now is arguing against the very penalty he helped pass.

No surprise from the people who tried to change the method of counting votes after the 2000 election that they had no problem with when it worked to get their man in 1992 and 1996. It's never been about fairness or justice or truth. It's always been about POWER.

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-02-17 08:47|| 2008-02-17 08:47|| Front Page Top

#4 No, we will never be rid of the Clintons and their little helpers. Ickes father was a key member of FDR's Brain Trust. They go back to Philip Freneau and will always be with us, for good and ill.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-02-17 08:53|| 2008-02-17 08:53|| Front Page Top

#5 kinda like Herpes, huh? They never go away?

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-02-17 12:43|| 2008-02-17 12:43|| Front Page Top

#6 If you look up "hypocrit" in the dictionary Harold Ickes picture is there.

Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues 2008-02-17 16:57|| 2008-02-17 16:57|| Front Page Top

#7 I don't know anything about the current Harold Ickes, but don't tar all the Ickes with the same brush. A lot of Rantburgers have no use for FDR and his brain trust. Don't forget that these people understood the threat presented by Hitler before a lot of conservatives did. Youngest Daughter and I just read Harold Ickes's response to the America Firsters in 1940 or so; and he made sense. What he said against the Nazis then bears repeating today:

...What is convulsing the world today is not merely another old-fashioned war. It is a counterrevolution against our ideas and ideals, against our sense of justice and our human values.
Three system today compete for world domination. Communism, Fascism, and democracy are struggling for social-economic world control. As the conflict sharpens it becomes clear that the other two, fascism and communism, are merging into one. They have one common goal, the destruction of democracy.
This is why this war is not an ordinary war. It is not a conflict for markets or territories. It is a desperate struggle for the possession of the souls of men.

Posted by mom ">mom 2008-02-17 20:40|| http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com]">[http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com] 2008-02-17 20:40|| Front Page Top

#8 try and do a similar defense of Sid Blumenthal, Mom

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-02-17 20:45|| 2008-02-17 20:45|| Front Page Top

#9 Frank: You have me there. Who's Sid Blumenthal?
I don't know all of the brain trust names.

I quoted this speech because #3 daughter and I read it and it made sense. We're supplementing the school curriculum here. Her history teacher seems to have good sense, but the textbook has some gaps and errors.

Somebody on the 'Burg said elsewhere, in an article about JFK under "Opinion" today, that JFK wouldn't find a home with today's democrats. I don't think FDR would, either.

In discussing FDR with my daughter earlier this evening, we compared FDR's alphabet soup program with AFDC. FDR didn't make the family irrelevant; his programs created jobs that kept families together. I remember my passionately New Deal great-aunt ranting in exasperation over the 1960s AFDC programs--"They're paying people to breed!"

I will go google Sid Blumenthal and learn something.

Posted by mom ">mom 2008-02-17 20:54|| http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com]">[http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com] 2008-02-17 20:54|| Front Page Top

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