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2008-04-07 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Global Warming Alert: Scientist predict Global Cooling
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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2008-04-07 17:46|| || Front Page|| [8 views ]  Top

#1 We are back to no sunspots. Maunder or Dalton type minimum is looking increasingly likely. Little Ice Age Mk II here we come.
Posted by phil_b 2008-04-07 18:47||   2008-04-07 18:47|| Front Page Top

#2 Phil:

It's Bush's fault the Sun Spots are gone and it's letting in more Cosmic Rays bombard the Earth and increase the Hygroscopic Nuclei thus causing more clouds and global cooling.
Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2008-04-07 18:52||   2008-04-07 18:52|| Front Page Top

#3 But most scientists argue that the long-term temperature rises since 1880 can only be explained by carbon dioxide from human activity.
First of all, it may be many "scientists", but it is not most scientists.
Second, How do they know that the only influence is man made carbon dioxide? CO2 is not the major green house gas in the atmosphere - water vapor is.
Third, most of the climate models make simplifying assumptions so that they are tractable. Unfortunately, it is likely that those assumptions also make them invalid. The interactions between and among solar radiation, ocean temperatures, land mass, pollution and dust in the atmosphere, ice pack, glacier melt (or not), and other minor factors like CO2, are not well understood or modeled.
Posted by Rambler in California">Rambler in California  2008-04-07 18:53||   2008-04-07 18:53|| Front Page Top

#4 "This year's cooling has nothing to do wid global climate change ... ...@, > IOW, WORLD PERTS STILL DON'T KNOW WHATS GOING ON WID OUR SUN = GOD + DEEP SPACE, + CANNOT CONFIRM OR DENY THE EMPIRICAL RELIABILITY = UNRELIABILITY OF THEIR OWN MODELES AND THEORIES, ETC - YOU KNOW, WHY THEY KNOW EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING, ERGO KNOW NOTHING.

Must be nice to unilater make important decisions and binding conclusions for a lot of people = entire Planet widout having to explain anything, seek opinions, nor be held responsible for any detrimental outcome(s), etc.
Posted by Omomosh Jones7386 2008-04-07 19:04||   2008-04-07 19:04|| Front Page Top

#5 Sorry - above post is me. Looks like SUNSPOT CYCLE 24 + LACK THEREOF has been causing OWG Skynet to have glitches of late.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-04-07 19:11||   2008-04-07 19:11|| Front Page Top

#6 expect increasingly hysterical pronouncements of "could" and "may" as the Glowball Warming Grant-Whores try to defend their cult against facts. The Consensus™ may become less consensusy frayed, leading to excommunication and slurs...

as long as they go down without implementing their economic destruction to assuage their moralistic guilt, I'm OK with the bloodletting
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2008-04-07 19:47||   2008-04-07 19:47|| Front Page Top

#7 The problem is Frank, they will try to take us down with them.

We are not the cause, the sun and other factors are. Spend the money on researching crops that are hardy to heat or cold and don't need much water for crying out loud and shut the fuck up.
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2008-04-07 20:50||   2008-04-07 20:50|| Front Page Top

#8 Agreed - see this as a tide-turning year, working against Gore and his sorry-ass ilk.
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2008-04-07 21:02||   2008-04-07 21:02|| Front Page Top

#9 it is possible that 2008 will exceed the record year of 1998 because of global warming induced by greenhouse gases

Yeah right. Take a gander at the bottom graph at this link - it's the monthly temps and we're back to the mid '90s (so far). In fact, the last two months have temps similar to 1877.

Right, that's eighteen seventy seven.

The next three years should be interesting.
Posted by KBK 2008-04-07 21:09||   2008-04-07 21:09|| Front Page Top

#10 Only idiots would take 30 years of data and try to predict from that. But then, 75% of the worlds people are idiots.
Posted by newc">newc  2008-04-07 22:47||   2008-04-07 22:47|| Front Page Top

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