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2008-05-16 Home Front Economy

Los Angeles officials today will revive a controversial proposal to recycle wastewater

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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2008-05-16 06:14|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 Sorry about that, highlight end got lost in the shuffle. Should be after Tom Lehrer 1965.

Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2008-05-16 06:26|| 2008-05-16 06:26|| Front Page Top

#2 California agencies are also recycling treated sewage water back into the drinking supply.

Couldn't they just use it for industrial water needs? Drinking it sounds a little iffy to me.

Posted by Omeretle Guelph2746 2008-05-16 08:27|| 2008-05-16 08:27|| Front Page Top

#3 Not in Caliphornia. It makes the water more palatable for the illegals.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-05-16 08:34|| 2008-05-16 08:34|| Front Page Top

#4 A lot of hand-wringing over nothing. Where do you think your toilet water goes? Back in to the rivers, streams and ocean where it is 'treated' by mother nature and sent back in to the system. If the technology is sound, there is no difference, they would just be using technology to speed up the natural process. Nothing to see here...

Posted by AllahHateMe 2008-05-16 08:55|| 2008-05-16 08:55|| Front Page Top

#5 Lots of other places in the West have been using treated effluent for years.

The biggest problem with it is an odd one, a buildup of phosphates, that while not harmful in itself, act as fertilizer for microorganisms. So when it is warm out, open water has a lot more algae growth.

The phosphates come mostly from dishwasher detergent, which avoided the laundry detergent prohibition back in the 1960s, and from city PVC pipe glue, which bleeds a lot of phosphates into the water.

Effluent also tends to concentrate salts, like arsenic, so special care needs to be taken to reduce their levels on a regular basis.

Posted by Anonymoose 2008-05-16 09:13|| 2008-05-16 09:13|| Front Page Top

#6 It's the invisible hand of commerce saying "you've put too damn many people in place that can't sustain them". Adding the loose population of Mexico ain't helping. Next thing you know you'll end up as recycle for the Fremen water conservation program.

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-05-16 09:34|| 2008-05-16 09:34|| Front Page Top

#7 gotta love how all this adds to the cost of doing business, thus driving even more of it away from CA> Overbearing government and overpopulation are a self-solving system.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-05-16 09:46|| 2008-05-16 09:46|| Front Page Top

#8 #2. Couldn't they just use it for industrial water needs? Drinking it sounds a little iffy to me.

#3. Not in Caliphornia. It makes the water more palatable for the illegals.

LMAO!, I just cleaned the floor up too!

Posted by RD">RD 2008-05-16 09:49|| 2008-05-16 09:49|| Front Page Top

#9 It's Chinatown.

Posted by Excalibur 2008-05-16 10:22|| 2008-05-16 10:22|| Front Page Top

#10 It's sad for Caliphornia. Just another rung down the ladder. Like every other thing there, the populace never considers that things can get worse, not continually better. This water would be ideal as mentioned, for watering golf courses, etc. But, that would require another set of piping which costs big bucks, which Caliphornia also doe not have. Arnie now wants to borrow against future lottery receipts. What a joke. No one can guarantee future lottery revenue. So, the fallback position by the Mexican commies in the legislature is a raise in the general sales tax. Bet on it.

Posted by Woozle Elmeter 2700 2008-05-16 11:56|| 2008-05-16 11:56|| Front Page Top

#11 There is talk in the climate forums that conditions could be right for a return of mega-drought to California.

Link

Posted by phil_b 2008-05-16 12:04|| 2008-05-16 12:04|| Front Page Top

#12 It's Chinatown.

Exactly right, Excalibur. Watch the movie Chinatown. It's the whole story in one very depressing movie. Corruption and depravity are what it's all about. You take the most beautiful little girl in the world, you teach her to smoke and drink and then you rape her...it is the story of California. Roman Polansky knew too much about it but at least he got the movie right.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2008-05-16 12:24|| 2008-05-16 12:24|| Front Page Top

#13 gotta love how all this adds to the cost of doing business, thus driving even more of it away from CA> Overbearing government and overpopulation are a self-solving system.

Yeah, but unfortunately, instead of learning a lesson, they simply immigrate to other states and screw them up. AKA Californication.

Posted by charger 2008-05-16 13:00|| 2008-05-16 13:00|| Front Page Top

#14 Yeah, Im seeing that here in Colorado. Its certianly not the Colorado I knew when I was at Fort Carson and Buckley ANG (now Airforce) Base.

The inmates in Denver and Boulder are now running the ~~nuthouse~~ State House, and the morons from CA that moved here to get away from overbearing laws, pollution and insane real estate are now recreating those very same things.

Locusts.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-05-16 13:19|| 2008-05-16 13:19|| Front Page Top

#15 Ouch, OldSpook. The truth hurts.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2008-05-16 13:56|| 2008-05-16 13:56|| Front Page Top

#16 All Calif. has to do is bite the bullet (due to the semi-unreliable water supply), to construct a series of desalinization plants that are kicked in when snow melt, and rainfall do not meet needs.

It is expensive, but the state sits astride the Pacific Ocean.

Posted by Bertie Thineling 650 2008-05-16 13:59|| 2008-05-16 13:59|| Front Page Top

#17 I don't see a real problem here, Don't all Caliphornians drink bottled water from Far, Far away.(Yep Snark)

Posted by Redneck Jim">Redneck Jim 2008-05-16 14:06|| 2008-05-16 14:06|| Front Page Top

#18 Do the millions of illegal aliens in California use water? /snark

Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2008-05-16 14:09|| 2008-05-16 14:09|| Front Page Top

#19 But then, most of the people who live in California today were NOT born here. They came from places like Colorado, New York, New Jersey, Texas, Iowa, Michigan, Mexico, China, India, Philippines, Vietnam, Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, etc. California is the Ellis Island of the Pacific, the Ellis Island of the 21st Century and on a scale far more massive Lady Liberty ever dreamed of. If this is the US government's immigration policy I think it's only fair that some of the other states should take some too. Look at a map of the United States. It's a big, big country and they can't all live in this little corner of it. Consider this, too, when Ellis Island was in it's heyday the US was a young country with vast resources and uninhabited territories. It's not that way anymore. In fact, there are those of us who think we've had quite enough already. So either change this country's immigration policy or get used a lot more Californication.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2008-05-16 14:10|| 2008-05-16 14:10|| Front Page Top

#20 The tipping point has been passed in California, immigration is guaranteed to continue to increase, as is poverty, corruption, graft, excessive taxation, regulatory asphyxiation, and declining quality of life. Wh have imported the latino 3rd world and all it's ills. Governor Villareigo will do nothing but more of the same, and the unions will lockstep even more of government and industry. Have you noted that even the Hollywood liberal establishment is quietly leaving the state, not just the productions but the studio complexes themselves...
then when the state goes boom, the rest of the US will be taxed to prop it up.....for a while, till the Chinese foreclose on all the businesses they are buying.
Time to head for a food producing region and bunker in...

Posted by NoMoreBS 2008-05-16 16:11|| 2008-05-16 16:11|| Front Page Top

#21 NEWSVINE/SCIENCEDAILY/OTHER > RISE OF SOLYENT GREEN > Proposal to liquify and dissolve human corpses in lye chemical solutions. WHY WASTE A PERFECTLY GOOD HUMAN-BASED/DERIVED CHEMICAL LIQUID VV GLOBAL FOOD CRISES???

D *** NG IT, SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL MARX/SOV-RUHR FRANKEN-SCIENTIST!

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-05-16 18:52|| 2008-05-16 18:52|| Front Page Top

#22 native San Diegan (one of teh few) - the issue is tertiary treatment capabilities do not screen for viruses or traces of antibiotics, pharmaceuticals. Typical current proces is to depend on dilution via dumping in "clean" water in sufficiently low levels to minimize effects. Taking water directly "toilet-to-tap" without massive (see: Colorado River") dilution is rolling the dice IMHO. Other knowledgables disagree. I welcome them to be the pilot project

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-05-16 19:21|| 2008-05-16 19:21|| Front Page Top

#23 sorry about the typos, was on the phone while typing....Friday afternoons - too worn down to multi-task, apparently

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-05-16 19:31|| 2008-05-16 19:31|| Front Page Top

#24 Most places that recycle the wastewater at least bother to dilute several hundred times - 200 gallons for fresh for every gallon of wastewater. Either that or they run it through other forms of purification like solar lensing.

Posted by Shieldwolf 2008-05-16 19:39|| 2008-05-16 19:39|| Front Page Top

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