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2008-05-19 Down Under
Climate plan could change sky colour
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Posted by tipper 2008-05-19 05:46|| || Front Page|| [1 views ]  Top

#1 As well as the global dimming plan, Prof Flannery said carbon should be taken out of the air and converted into charcoal, then ploughed into farmers' fields.


Isn't charcoal merely half-burnt firewood? Or does Professor Flannery perhaps mean to refer to coal, which is a remnant of the ancient fern forests, dug out of the ground?

Wealthy people should pay poor farmers in tropical zones to plant forests - possibly through a direct purchase scheme like the eBay website.


Why don't wealthy people start by planting more trees where they live, work, and run power plants, thus in one stroke cooling heat sources and absorbing the carbon dioxide produced there? Another idea might be to finance the planting of replacement forests in China, currently the world's biggest polluter, and a country rapidly being denuded of its few remaining vascular autotrophs.
Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife  2008-05-19 06:50||   2008-05-19 06:50|| Front Page Top

#2 Somebody shoot this idiot.

Tell him to just wait for the next Mt. Pinatubo, or Mt. St Helens. Any such eruptions will cause global temperatures to decline a full degree or so.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_Explosivity_Index
Posted by Lone Ranger 2008-05-19 07:37||   2008-05-19 07:37|| Front Page Top

#3 Why don't the climate weanies plant trees anyway ?
I don't see any tree planting efforts from the weird global warming fools, just sit in the corner and bitch, bitch, bitch.
Posted by wxjames 2008-05-19 07:39||   2008-05-19 07:39|| Front Page Top

#4 I do not even want to go into the environmental disasters that would happen with this plan.

That is the problem with these idiots, they just see the short term issue and try to plan for that, ignoring the long term situation and screwing stuff up even further.
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2008-05-19 07:44||   2008-05-19 07:44|| Front Page Top

#5 Charcoal does not rot. It is stable in soil for thousands of years. It also helps to increase soil productivity by holding water and returning minerals.

Sulphur (dioxide). Yuch and PU! Why not Manganese heptoxide for that deep rich, red sky. I think Ima applying for a grant.
Posted by ed 2008-05-19 08:03||   2008-05-19 08:03|| Front Page Top

#6 Prof Flannery, the 2007 Australian of the Year,

What do you get for that, a baby kangaroo? A case of Foster's?
Posted by Raj 2008-05-19 08:18||   2008-05-19 08:18|| Front Page Top

#7 Words fail.
Posted by anonymous5089 2008-05-19 09:11||   2008-05-19 09:11|| Front Page Top

#8 Meanwhile on Guam, a man is dreaming of a pair of planet sized sunglasses.
Posted by Grunter 2008-05-19 09:50||   2008-05-19 09:50|| Front Page Top

#9 There are places along the Colorado River in the Grand Canyon where the water dissolves the CO2 in the rocks and it is released into the atmosphere. It looks like soda water with all the bubbles. How do we stop that? Bugwits!.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2008-05-19 10:29||   2008-05-19 10:29|| Front Page Top

#10 Higher dams.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-05-19 10:31||   2008-05-19 10:31|| Front Page Top

#11 Nowjustholdonadoggoneminutehere.

For years we've spent umpteen billions of dollars scrubbing the SO2 from power plant emissions and have even gone so far as to mandate low sulphur diesel fuels that may harm engines and now this jackass wants to add sulphur to jet fuels to disperse SO2 in the atmosphere intentionally?

For those of you playing along at home SO2 was one of the main culprits in the acid rain scare of the 1970s and we've spent probably trillions of dollars trying to eliminate it from all emissions. My recollection is that the process goes something like this:

2SO2 + O2 --> 2SO3
SO3 + H2O --> H2SO4 (sulphuric acid)

So unless this rocket scientist has found a way to remove oxygen and water vapor from the atmosphere what he's really telling us is that acid rain will cure global warming.

Back up the popcorn truck, lefties sure are entertaining when they're hysterical.
Posted by AzCat 2008-05-19 10:33||   2008-05-19 10:33|| Front Page Top

#12 They're funny until the acid rain starts picking up again.
Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2008-05-19 10:51||   2008-05-19 10:51|| Front Page Top

#13 Geeze. Stick a sock in it, Flannery.
Posted by mojo">mojo  2008-05-19 11:14||   2008-05-19 11:14|| Front Page Top

#14 A couple of good large volcanic eruptions would probably put more sulfur dioxide (and CO2) into the atmosphere than if all of the airplanes in the world ran on sulfur.
And I don't remember the sky changing colo(u)r when Mt. Pinatubo blew up, although we did have some pretty sunsets for a while.
Posted by Rambler in California">Rambler in California  2008-05-19 11:49||   2008-05-19 11:49|| Front Page Top

#15 AzCat, this one's for you:

Mary had a little drink
But she will drink no more,
For what she thought was H20
Was H2SO4.

:-D
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2008-05-19 12:07|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]  2008-05-19 12:07|| Front Page Top

#16 Here are 32,000 reasons why Flannery is a liar (click on audio,Tim Flannery, hero of the environment)
Posted by tipper 2008-05-19 13:51||   2008-05-19 13:51|| Front Page Top

#17 That's a wonderful turn of verse Barbara! Somehow this one seems quite apropos as well:

There once was an old man of Esser,
Whose knowledge grew lesser and lesser,
It at last grew so small
He knew nothing at all,
And now he's a college professor.

Posted by AzCat 2008-05-19 14:28||   2008-05-19 14:28|| Front Page Top

#18 This is not a radical solution.

It has, IIRC, been proposed many times. As I recall it, several proposals have simply recommended that Jumbo Jets be allowed to use fuel with higher sulfur content.

If the numbers worked out as they had it, the solution would be a negative cost. Thus, even if global warming wasn't happening, it would be in the public interest.
Posted by mhw 2008-05-19 15:39||   2008-05-19 15:39|| Front Page Top

#19 Meanwhile on Guam, a man Skynet is dreaming of a pair of planet sized sunglasses
Posted by George Smiley 2008-05-19 19:27||   2008-05-19 19:27|| Front Page Top

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