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2008-05-28 Home Front: WoT
U.S. Fourth Fleet in Venezuelan Waters
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Posted by Oztralian 2008-05-28 19:15|| || Front Page|| [8 views ]  Top

#1 AFAIK the lend lease agreement signed with the UK was for a hundred years. One of the former bases was in Trinidad, just 13 miles from the Venezuelan coast.
Posted by john frum 2008-05-28 19:36||   2008-05-28 19:36|| Front Page Top

#2 Poop your pants, Chavez. Poop 'em!
Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader  2008-05-28 19:45||   2008-05-28 19:45|| Front Page Top

#3 That particular part of the world is US Ocean. The Vz Navy is allowed to patrol outwards of 200 miles without being sunk on sight due to the generous spirit and sense of fairplay that permeates the most important of US Military Services.
Posted by George Smiley 2008-05-28 20:06||   2008-05-28 20:06|| Front Page Top

#4 t’s difficult to see how the revival of the Fourth Fleet is warranted at the present time. The move has only served to further antagonize Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez, already rattled by a U.S. navy plane’s violation of Venezuelan airspace over the weekend. In the long-term, the Pentagon’s saber rattling may encourage South American militaries to assert great independence from Washington, a trend which is already well under way as I discuss in my new book, Revolution! South America and the Rise of the New Left (Palgrave-Macmillan).

uh huh. Antagonizing our avowed enemies (who are acquiring Russian subs IIRC?)is bad, how? FOAD would be the appropriate answer to this handwringing.
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2008-05-28 20:18||   2008-05-28 20:18|| Front Page Top

#5 "The move has only served to further antagonize Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez, already rattled by a U.S. navy plane’s violation of Venezuelan airspace over the weekend."

Could be. But what's the downside?
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2008-05-28 20:53|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]  2008-05-28 20:53|| Front Page Top

#6 It’s difficult to see how the revival of the Fourth Fleet is warranted at the present time.

I guess our esteemed 'author' hasn't figured out Central and South America have taken on a higher level of concern.

The press release:

Effective July 1, the command will have operational responsibility for U.S. Navy assets assigned from east and west coast fleets to operate in the SOUTHCOM area. As a result, U.S. Fourth Fleet will not involve an increase in forces assigned in Mayport, Fla. These assets will conduct varying missions including a range of contingency operations, counter narcoterrorism, and theater security cooperation (TSC) activities. TSC includes military-to-military interaction and bilateral training opportunities as well as humanitarian assistance and in-country partnerships.

U.S. Fourth Fleet will retain responsibility as NAVSO, the Navy component command for SOUTHCOM. Its mission is to direct U.S. naval forces operating in the Caribbean, and Central and South American regions and interact with partner nation navies to shape the maritime environment.


And here's the kicker:

RADM Kernan [who has fleet experience] will be the first Navy SEAL to serve as a numbered fleet commander.
Posted by Pappy 2008-05-28 21:12||   2008-05-28 21:12|| Front Page Top

#7 RADM Kernan [who has fleet experience] will be the first Navy SEAL to serve as a numbered fleet commander.

That's gonna leave a mark.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-05-28 21:36||   2008-05-28 21:36|| Front Page Top

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